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Submitted URL:
http://tsh.re/zGs3
Effective URL:
https://tsh.re/zGs3
Submission: On May 07 via automatic, source openphish (May 7th 2021, 2:02:45 am UTC)

Summary HTTP 8 Redirects Behaviour Indicators

Summary

This website contacted 6 IPs in 2 countries across 5 domains to perform 8 HTTP transactions. The main IP is 2606:4700:3037::ac43:a464, located in United States and belongs to CLOUDFLARENET, US. The main domain is tsh.re.
TLS certificate: Issued by Cloudflare Inc ECC CA-3 on May 4th 2021. Valid for: a year.

This is the only time tsh.re was scanned on urlscan.io!

urlscan.io Verdict: Potentially Malicious

Targeting these brands: Facebook (Social Network)

Domain & IP information

	IP Address	AS Autonomous System
1 2	2606:4700:303... 2606:4700:3037::ac43:a464	13335 (CLOUDFLAR...) (CLOUDFLARENET)
1 3	94.242.61.15 94.242.61.15	43317 (FISHNET-AS) (FISHNET-AS)
1	2606:4700:303... 2606:4700:3030::ac43:b8a7	13335 (CLOUDFLAR...) (CLOUDFLARENET)
1	2606:4700:20:... 2606:4700:20::681a:164	13335 (CLOUDFLAR...) (CLOUDFLARENET)
2	67.202.94.93 67.202.94.93	32748 (STEADFAST) (STEADFAST)
8	6

2 2606:4700:3037::ac43:a464 (United States) 1 redirects

ASN13335 (CLOUDFLARENET, US)

tsh.re	Domain lookup VirusTotal SecurityTrails crt.sh Censys Domaintools

3 94.242.61.15 (Moscow, Russian Federation) 1 redirects

ASN43317 (FISHNET-AS, RU)
PTR: server1.server-sz.com

coco96857.xyz	Domain lookup VirusTotal SecurityTrails crt.sh Censys Domaintools

1 2606:4700:3030::ac43:b8a7 (United States)

ASN13335 (CLOUDFLARENET, US)

beta.crankyads.cc	Domain lookup VirusTotal SecurityTrails crt.sh Censys Domaintools

1 2606:4700:20::681a:164 (United States)

ASN13335 (CLOUDFLARENET, US)

get.geojs.io	Domain lookup VirusTotal SecurityTrails crt.sh Censys Domaintools

2 67.202.94.93 (United States)

ASN32748 (STEADFAST, US)
PTR: amung.us

whos.amung.us	Domain lookup VirusTotal SecurityTrails crt.sh Censys Domaintools

	Apex Domain Subdomains	Transfer
3	coco96857.xyz 1 redirects coco96857.xyz	500 KB
2	amung.us whos.amung.us Failed	59 B
2	tsh.re 1 redirects tsh.re	2 KB
1	geojs.io get.geojs.io	1 KB
1	crankyads.cc beta.crankyads.cc	875 B
8	5

	Domain	Requested by
3	coco96857.xyz	1 redirects tsh.re
2	whos.amung.us	beta.crankyads.cc
2	tsh.re	1 redirects
1	get.geojs.io	tsh.re
1	beta.crankyads.cc	tsh.re
8	5

This site contains no links.

Subject Issuer	Validity	Valid
sni.cloudflaressl.com Cloudflare Inc ECC CA-3	`2021-05-04` - `2022-05-03`	a year	crt.sh
coco96857.xyz cPanel, Inc. Certification Authority	`2021-03-08` - `2021-06-06`	3 months	crt.sh
whos.amung.us Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA	`2020-05-21` - `2022-05-21`	2 years	crt.sh

This page contains 1 frames:

Primary Page: https://tsh.re/zGs3
Frame ID: E52EB470587EF3C07A17154BCA5A62F9
Requests: 10 HTTP requests in this frame

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Page URL History Show full URLs

http://tsh.re/zGs3 HTTP 301
https://tsh.re/zGs3 Page URL

Detected technologies

CloudFlare (CDN) Expand

Overall confidence: 100%
Detected patterns

headers server /^cloudflare$/i

Page Statistics

8
Requests

88 %
HTTPS

60 %
IPv6

5
Domains

5
Subdomains

6
IPs

2
Countries

503 kB
Transfer

772 kB
Size

1
Cookies

0 Outgoing links

These are links going to different origins than the main page.

Page URL History

This captures the URL locations of the websites, including HTTP redirects and client-side redirects via JavaScript or Meta fields.

http://tsh.re/zGs3 HTTP 301
https://tsh.re/zGs3 Page URL

Redirected requests

There were HTTP redirect chains for the following requests:

Request Chain 3

https://coco96857.xyz/san/location HTTP 301
https://coco96857.xyz/san/location/

8 HTTP transactions
2 data transactions

Method
Protocol Status Resource
Path Size
x-fer Time
Latency Type
MIME-Type IP
Location

GET
H2

200

Primary Request zGs3 Show response
tsh.re/
Redirect Chain

http://tsh.re/zGs3
https://tsh.re/zGs3

180 B
926 B

68ms
39ms

Document
text/html

2606:4700:3037::ac43:a464
CLOUDFLARENET

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Full URL: https://tsh.re/zGs3
Protocol: H2
Security: TLS 1.3, , AES_128_GCM
Server: 2606:4700:3037::ac43:a464 , United States, ASN13335 (CLOUDFLARENET, US),
Reverse DNS
Software: cloudflare /
Resource Hash: ab800272a3aa7cc4f5e394beb532e63aa39edbe997abbe5406169fa55108e131

Request headers

:method: GET
:authority: tsh.re
:scheme: https
:path: /zGs3
pragma: no-cache
cache-control: no-cache
upgrade-insecure-requests: 1
user-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/89.0.4389.72 Safari/537.36
accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,image/avif,image/webp,image/apng,*/*;q=0.8,application/signed-exchange;v=b3;q=0.9
sec-fetch-site: none
sec-fetch-mode: navigate
sec-fetch-user: ?1
sec-fetch-dest: document
accept-encoding: gzip, deflate, br
accept-language: en-US
Upgrade-Insecure-Requests: 1
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/89.0.4389.72 Safari/537.36

Response headers

date: Fri, 07 May 2021 02:02:28 GMT
content-type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
set-cookie: __cfduid=d2e894acbe54367ae6bcac6dd201034f71620352948; expires=Sun, 06-Jun-21 02:02:28 GMT; path=/; domain=.tsh.re; HttpOnly; SameSite=Lax; Secure
access-control-allow-origin: *
access-control-allow-headers: Origin, X-Requested-With, Content-Type, Accept
access-control-allow-methods: GET, POST, PUT, DELETE
vary: Accept-Encoding
cf-cache-status: DYNAMIC
cf-request-id: 09e628f24700004de29f215000000001
expect-ct: max-age=604800, report-uri="https://report-uri.cloudflare.com/cdn-cgi/beacon/expect-ct"
report-to: {"group":"cf-nel","endpoints":[{"url":"https:\/\/a.nel.cloudflare.com\/report?s=TLaV8%2FojeVf%2BDkyHsGoXX7xF5WCBb2T1eLDOePG0Gq%2FCpVP6sUnU3xUmTskN1evoLsUBy9rAJ1S2hZBzfnj%2FHu%2FEx1%2FeLNP8%2FMmkbuJQzRoMBDM%3D"}],"max_age":604800}
nel: {"report_to":"cf-nel","max_age":604800}
server: cloudflare
cf-ray: 64b6ddca0c504de2-FRA
content-encoding: gzip
alt-svc: h3-27=":443"; ma=86400, h3-28=":443"; ma=86400, h3-29=":443"; ma=86400

Redirect headers

Date: Fri, 07 May 2021 02:02:28 GMT
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Connection: keep-alive
Cache-Control: max-age=3600
Expires: Fri, 07 May 2021 03:02:28 GMT
Location: https://tsh.re/zGs3
cf-request-id: 09e628f21600002c19aa068000000001
Report-To: {"max_age":604800,"endpoints":[{"url":"https:\/\/a.nel.cloudflare.com\/report?s=y%2FhU4qvNpPRn3L9xx1PeCCeKC70AoJvzNxU%2Fn1c%2Bm5ItxeYRmJ59jahaCNp7TlByfs8drrQ2MlvXSj6y7cRF8GztHc8mxS%2Bsl%2BaeaAtxr6NteYc%3D"}],"group":"cf-nel"}
NEL: {"report_to":"cf-nel","max_age":604800}
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Server: cloudflare
CF-RAY: 64b6ddc9bd3f2c19-FRA
alt-svc: h3-27=":443"; ma=86400, h3-28=":443"; ma=86400, h3-29=":443"; ma=86400

GET
H2 200 / Show response
coco96857.xyz/san/ 718 KB
499 KB 245ms
78ms Script
application/javascript 94.242.61.15
FISHNET-AS

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Full URL: https://coco96857.xyz/san/?api=1&lan=facebooknew&ht=1
Requested by: Host: tsh.re
URL: https://tsh.re/zGs3
Protocol: H2
Security: TLS 1.3, , AES_128_GCM
Server: 94.242.61.15 Moscow, Russian Federation, ASN43317 (FISHNET-AS, RU),
Reverse DNS: server1.server-sz.com
Software: LiteSpeed /
Resource Hash: 00fec890a30013f87754df334507a4ae5a66c2d48b94984dea880b0af37f411e

Request headers

Referer: https://tsh.re/
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/89.0.4389.72 Safari/537.36

Response headers

pragma: no-cache
date: Fri, 07 May 2021 02:02:29 GMT
content-encoding: br
server: LiteSpeed
vary: Accept-Encoding
content-type: application/javascript
cache-control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate
alt-svc: quic=":443"; ma=2592000; v="43,46", h3-Q043=":443"; ma=2592000, h3-Q046=":443"; ma=2592000, h3-Q050=":443"; ma=2592000, h3-25=":443"; ma=2592000, h3-27=":443"; ma=2592000
expires: Thu, 19 Nov 1981 08:52:00 GMT

GET
H2 200 countec.js Show response
beta.crankyads.cc/assets/ 297 B
875 B 35ms
13ms Script
application/javascript 2606:4700:3030::ac43:b8a7
CLOUDFLARENET

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Full URL: https://beta.crankyads.cc/assets/countec.js
Requested by: Host: tsh.re
URL: https://tsh.re/zGs3
Protocol: H2
Security: TLS 1.3, , AES_128_GCM
Server: 2606:4700:3030::ac43:b8a7 , United States, ASN13335 (CLOUDFLARENET, US),
Reverse DNS
Software: cloudflare /
Resource Hash: ded9f84156c47264401a9fca62c0027d501f2a41291b3a30647508cef9f69886

Request headers

Referer: https://tsh.re/
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/89.0.4389.72 Safari/537.36

Response headers

date: Fri, 07 May 2021 02:02:28 GMT
content-encoding: br
cf-cache-status: HIT
nel: {"report_to":"cf-nel","max_age":604800}
server: cloudflare
host: beta.crankyads.cc
age: 1099
expect-ct: max-age=604800, report-uri="https://report-uri.cloudflare.com/cdn-cgi/beacon/expect-ct"
vary: Accept-Encoding
report-to: {"endpoints":[{"url":"https:\/\/a.nel.cloudflare.com\/report?s=QfsRNBNdIEt84RVNcp3s2QcN08%2BAVEJA%2FE5RomeVqFdyyWC5t4fNStkc%2BBiBmINsYQI%2BPuYwTDudHI3uhySq2KaXbtgISOC56VMJdBVq%2BoR6bwaMDPOPVSrXC5CrPA%3D%3D"}],"group":"cf-nel","max_age":604800}
content-type: application/javascript
cache-control: max-age=14400
cf-ray: 64b6ddca7f012b41-FRA
alt-svc: h3-27=":443"; ma=86400, h3-28=":443"; ma=86400, h3-29=":443"; ma=86400
cf-request-id: 09e628f28a00002b415810f000000001

GET /
whos.amung.us/pingjs/ 0
0

GET
H3-Q050

200

/ Show response
coco96857.xyz/san/location/
Redirect Chain

https://coco96857.xyz/san/location
https://coco96857.xyz/san/location/

1 KB
522 B

54ms
54ms

Script
application/javascript

94.242.61.15
FISHNET-AS

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Full URL: https://coco96857.xyz/san/location/
Protocol: H3-Q050
Security: QUIC, , AES_128_GCM
Server: 94.242.61.15 Moscow, Russian Federation, ASN43317 (FISHNET-AS, RU),
Reverse DNS: server1.server-sz.com
Software: LiteSpeed /
Resource Hash: ce0b3cc4048b5dd27f352533ac47cbdef8f4bb9a5170a7fa6d2a917428946599

Request headers

Referer: https://tsh.re/
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/89.0.4389.72 Safari/537.36

Response headers

date: Fri, 07 May 2021 02:02:29 GMT
content-encoding: br
server: LiteSpeed
vary: Accept-Encoding
content-type: application/javascript
cache-control: public, max-age=604800
content-length: 428
expires: Fri, 14 May 2021 02:02:29 GMT

Redirect headers

location: https://coco96857.xyz/san/location/
date: Fri, 07 May 2021 02:02:29 GMT
server: LiteSpeed
content-length: 707
content-type: text/html

GET
H2 200 geo.json Show response
get.geojs.io/v1/ip/ 313 B
1 KB 43ms
27ms XHR
application/json 2606:4700:20::681a:164
CLOUDFLARENET

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Full URL

https://get.geojs.io/v1/ip/geo.json

Requested by

Host: tsh.re
URL: https://tsh.re/zGs3

Protocol

Security

TLS 1.3, , AES_128_GCM

Server

2606:4700:20::681a:164 , United States, ASN13335 (CLOUDFLARENET, US),

Reverse DNS

Software

cloudflare /

Resource Hash

e1b9669408085001926ddd58a84ffbb5cb2a7aff7b7619daa54a87263a4abcac

Security Headers

Name	Value
Strict-Transport-Security	max-age=15552000; includeSubDomains; preload
X-Content-Type-Options	nosniff

Request headers

Referer: https://tsh.re/
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/89.0.4389.72 Safari/537.36

Response headers

date: Fri, 07 May 2021 02:02:29 GMT
content-encoding: br
x-content-type-options: nosniff
cf-cache-status: DYNAMIC
nel: {"max_age":604800,"report_to":"cf-nel"}
access-control-allow-methods: GET
alt-svc: h3-27=":443"; ma=86400, h3-28=":443"; ma=86400, h3-29=":443"; ma=86400
cf-request-id: 09e628f4940000c290e6800000000001
x-request-id: cc1bec579bb68db91aee5e99e7fd7b8a-AMS
x-geojs-location: AMS
pragma: no-cache
server: cloudflare
expect-ct: max-age=604800, report-uri="https://report-uri.cloudflare.com/cdn-cgi/beacon/expect-ct"
strict-transport-security: max-age=15552000; includeSubDomains; preload
report-to: {"group":"cf-nel","endpoints":[{"url":"https:\/\/a.nel.cloudflare.com\/report?s=kh8t68UfKv9LaxIrZLD6U6BJvJNUa841bDM%2BvPegDQNBsYAcpfr7X9vpnkTi%2BAnowjn7YMR8OPvKW7DQW6DI0%2BuXRuCIdEN31xnIWSt9IYk7qN1%2F5wmQp8w%3D"}],"max_age":604800}
content-type: application/json
access-control-allow-origin: *
cache-control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, private, max-age=0
cf-ray: 64b6ddcdbe5dc290-FRA

GET
DATA 200
OK truncated
/ 1 KB
0 Image
image/png

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Full URL: data:truncated
Protocol: DATA
Server: -, , ASN (),
Reverse DNS
Software: /
Resource Hash: 1230532f79456753fb73f559ece9b95c17cfb36325dc313a3eda5ac22dfd9a2b

Request headers

Referer
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/89.0.4389.72 Safari/537.36

Response headers

Content-Type: image/png

GET
H2 200 /
whos.amung.us/pingjs/ 28 B
28 B 337ms
113ms Image
text/javascript 67.202.94.93
STEADFAST

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Full URL: https://whos.amung.us/pingjs/?k=ld367578&t=%F0%9F%94%A5ALL%20100%20%F0%9F%94%A5&x=%20dime%20tu%20mi%20hijo
Protocol: H2
Security: TLS 1.3, , AES_128_GCM
Server: 67.202.94.93 , United States, ASN32748 (STEADFAST, US),
Reverse DNS: amung.us
Software: /
Resource Hash: e3b0c44298fc1c149afbf4c8996fb92427ae41e4649b934ca495991b7852b855

Request headers

Referer: https://tsh.re/
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/89.0.4389.72 Safari/537.36

Response headers

date: Fri, 07 May 2021 02:02:29 GMT
content-encoding: gzip
content-type: text/javascript;charset=UTF-8

GET
H2 200 /
whos.amung.us/pingjs/ 31 B
31 B 338ms
113ms Image
text/javascript 67.202.94.93
STEADFAST

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Full URL: https://whos.amung.us/pingjs/?k=teamdinero&t=%F0%9F%94%A5ALL%20100%20%F0%9F%94%A5&x=%20dime%20tu%20mi%20hijo
Protocol: H2
Security: TLS 1.3, , AES_128_GCM
Server: 67.202.94.93 , United States, ASN32748 (STEADFAST, US),
Reverse DNS: amung.us
Software: /
Resource Hash: e3b0c44298fc1c149afbf4c8996fb92427ae41e4649b934ca495991b7852b855

Request headers

Referer: https://tsh.re/
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/89.0.4389.72 Safari/537.36

Response headers

date: Fri, 07 May 2021 02:02:29 GMT
content-encoding: gzip
content-type: text/javascript;charset=UTF-8

GET
DATA 200
OK truncated
/ 51 KB
0 Image
image/png

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Full URL: data:truncated
Protocol: DATA
Server: -, , ASN (),
Reverse DNS
Software: /
Resource Hash: 7281941fed81ed9caf5728727e05da4a94b442c36796e1a5b1d6106f242ed11f

Request headers

Referer
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/89.0.4389.72 Safari/537.36

Response headers

Content-Type: image/png

Failed requests

These URLs were requested, but there was no response received. You will also see them in the list above.

Domain: whos.amung.us
URL: https://whos.amung.us/pingjs/?k=globalcranky/

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Potentially malicious activity detected
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Phishing against: Facebook (Social Network)

25 JavaScript Global Variables

These are the non-standard "global" variables defined on the window object. These can be helpful in identifying possible client-side frameworks and code.

1 Cookies

Cookies are little pieces of information stored in the browser of a user. Whenever a user visits the site again, he will also send his cookie values, thus allowing the website to re-identify him even if he changed locations. This is how permanent logins work.

			Domain/Path	Expires	Name / Value
			.tsh.re/	1970-01-19 18:49:04	Name: __cfduid Value: d2e894acbe54367ae6bcac6dd201034f71620352948

4 Console Messages

A page may trigger messages to the console to be logged. These are often error messages about being unable to load a resource or execute a piece of JavaScript. Sometimes they also provide insight into the technology behind a website.

Source	Level	URL Text
console-api	log	URL: https://coco96857.xyz/san/?api=1&lan=facebooknew&ht=1(Line 89) Message: [object HTMLScriptElement]
console-api	log	URL: https://coco96857.xyz/san/?api=1&lan=facebooknew&ht=1(Line 89) Message: [object HTMLScriptElement]
console-api	log	URL: https://coco96857.xyz/san/?api=1&lan=facebooknew&ht=1(Line 89) Message: [object HTMLScriptElement]
console-api	log	URL: https://coco96857.xyz/san/?api=1&lan=facebooknew&ht=1(Line 89) Message: [object HTMLScriptElement]

Indicators

This is a term in the security industry to describe indicators such as IPs, Domains, Hashes, etc. This does not imply that any of these indicate malicious activity.

beta.crankyads.cc
coco96857.xyz
get.geojs.io
tsh.re
whos.amung.us
whos.amung.us
2606:4700:20::681a:164
2606:4700:3030::ac43:b8a7
2606:4700:3037::ac43:a464
67.202.94.93
94.242.61.15
00fec890a30013f87754df334507a4ae5a66c2d48b94984dea880b0af37f411e
1230532f79456753fb73f559ece9b95c17cfb36325dc313a3eda5ac22dfd9a2b
7281941fed81ed9caf5728727e05da4a94b442c36796e1a5b1d6106f242ed11f
ab800272a3aa7cc4f5e394beb532e63aa39edbe997abbe5406169fa55108e131
ce0b3cc4048b5dd27f352533ac47cbdef8f4bb9a5170a7fa6d2a917428946599
ded9f84156c47264401a9fca62c0027d501f2a41291b3a30647508cef9f69886
e1b9669408085001926ddd58a84ffbb5cb2a7aff7b7619daa54a87263a4abcac
e3b0c44298fc1c149afbf4c8996fb92427ae41e4649b934ca495991b7852b855

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Summary

urlscan.io Verdict: Potentially Malicious

Domain & IP information

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Detected technologies

Page Statistics

8 Requests

88 %HTTPS

60 %IPv6

5 Domains

5 Subdomains

6 IPs

2 Countries

503 kBTransfer

772 kBSize

1 Cookies

0 Outgoing links

Page URL History

Redirected requests

8 HTTP transactions Everything HTML Script AJAX CSS Image Expand all 2 data transactions

Request headers

Response headers

Redirect headers

Request headers

Response headers

Request headers

Response headers

Request headers

Response headers

Redirect headers

Request headers

Response headers

Request headers

Response headers

Request headers

Response headers

Request headers

Response headers

Request headers

Response headers

Failed requests

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25 JavaScript Global Variables

1 Cookies

4 Console Messages

Indicators

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2606:4700:3037::ac43:a464 Malicious Activity! Public Scan

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8
Requests

88 %
HTTPS

60 %
IPv6

5
Domains

5
Subdomains

6
IPs

2
Countries

503 kB
Transfer

772 kB
Size

1
Cookies

8 HTTP transactions
2 data transactions

Potentially malicious activity detected
Disclaimer: These verdicts should be used to detect potentially malicious websites, not as a final verdict!