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Minicucci, though, makes a couple of interesting points. * They are doing their own inspections of the planes and therefore do not trust Boeing to do them. I reported earlier in the week that airlines would be doing their own oversight inspections, of Boeing 737 factories to review productions and quality procedures. * Alaska will remain ‘proudly all Boeing’, it is “a commitment.” But does he realize he’s in the process of buying a heavily Airbus fleet from Hawaiian Airlines? They haven’t publicly spoken to their plans for Hawaiian’s fleet, though it’s broadly assumed that eventually the Airbus planes go away (they just finished offloading the Airbus narrowbodies they took on when buying Virgin America). Boeing has major problems. So does Spirit Aerosystems, which produces many of the components of their planes, it seems. But that, too, is a Boeing problem. It’s no longer possible to paper over those. And airlines that buy and operate Boeing aircraft are going to have to take on greater responsibility for safety assurance. The Boeing brand has been damaged. Alaska Airlines CEO Says He Doesn’t Trust Boeing Quality, Won’t Keep Hawaiian’s Airbus Planes? 754 Shares 224 110 419 MORE FROM VIEW FROM THE WING ALASKA AIRLINES INSTANTLY GROUNDS BOEING 737 MAX 9 FLEET AFTER NEW PLANE’S TERRIFYING MID-AIR FUSELAGE RUPTURE Alaska Airlines is grounding all 65 of its Boeing 737 MAX 9 aircraft following an incident on board flight 1282 Friday. The plane experienced rapid decompression following the loss of a mid-aft door and interior sidewall shortly after departure. The airline expects to complete inspections on the planes over the… January 6, 2024 In "Airlines" MORE LOOSE BOLTS: BOEING 737 MAX 9 PROBLEMS WIDESPREAD AS UNITED FINDS 5 FAULTY PLANES During inspections following the Alaska Airlines loss of a a decommissioned exit door during flight, United Airlines has found at least 5 Boeing 737 MAX 9 aircraft with "loose bolts and other parts." January 8, 2024 In "Airlines" BOEING’S RESPONSE TO 737 MAX CRISIS: MORE INSPECTIONS, TEAM REVIEWS, BUT IS IT ENOUGH? Boeing Commercial Airplanes CEO Stan Deal has outlined to employees the steps the airframe manufacturer plans to take to improve quality assurance in light of the Alaska Airlines Boeing 737 MAX 9 near-disaster that currently has that plane type grounded by regulators. January 15, 2024 In "General" 15 Comments « Previous Article Next Article » ABOUT GARY LEFF Gary Leff is one of the foremost experts in the field of miles, points, and frequent business travel - a topic he has covered since 2002. Co-founder of frequent flyer community InsideFlyer.com, emcee of the Freddie Awards, and named one of the "World's Top Travel Experts" by Conde' Nast Traveler (2010-Present) Gary has been a guest on most major news media, profiled in several top print publications, and published broadly on the topic of consumer loyalty. More About Gary » More articles by Gary Leff » COMMENTS 1. Andys says: January 17, 2024 at 1:44 pm Much like anything in this world if you can pick between something European vs American. Ways pick Europe. European is always better. American is a land of rednecks. 2. Mantis says: January 17, 2024 at 1:50 pm I’m sure doing their own inspections is just a PR move to assure the public. I seriously doubt that they don’t “trust” Boeing to do inspections of something with such high visibility. As far as “proudly all Boeing”, if they keep the Hawaiian branding, but integrate operations and loyalty programs, then they can technically still say Alaska Airlines is still all Boeing. 3. Greg says: January 17, 2024 at 1:54 pm @Mantis – precisely 4. Joe A. Kunzler says: January 17, 2024 at 2:06 pm Says you. Alaska Airlines has their own engineers and executives. I got faith. Plus it would be a horrendous look for the airline based in a part of the world with a lot of Boeing workers to waver. 5. Dom says: January 17, 2024 at 2:10 pm “The Boeing brand has been damaged.” Such a perceptive analysis. Thanks for sharing. 6. Dougie says: January 17, 2024 at 2:20 pm The rednecks are starting to win elections in Europe too. Soon France and/or Germany shouid be lead by rednecks. And, of course, after two world wars originating in Europe, to this day, it never has been or become better. Oh, almost forgot, Airbus has had better quality control than Boeing. That is likely to continue even with the redneck parties taking over Europe! 7. derek says: January 17, 2024 at 2:20 pm @Andys European is always better? Have you driven a Renault? 8. Jack says: January 17, 2024 at 2:35 pm @derek So true! 9. canuck_in_ca says: January 17, 2024 at 2:35 pm I just watched the CEO’s video. Not impressed. This quality control by customers does not make me feel better since it should not be needed in the first place. 10. quinn says: January 17, 2024 at 3:00 pm Even if they are internally discussing moving away from their all Boeing strategy after the max9 incident its probably not something they can talk or admit to publicly yet if its something they only just started to consider after the max9 incident. Such a shift would represent a major business strategy change that would be dumb to share publicly before they have all their ducks in a row. 11. JohnW says: January 17, 2024 at 3:17 pm Amazon decided they wanted A330 freighters. They chose Hawaiian to operate those for them. They have extensive A330 experience, their own sim, excellent on time record etc. HA supplies the staffing and Amazon the planes and fuel. Currently the option is for up to 60 planes, could go higher. It’s a a nice hedge for HA (and Alaska if the deal goes though) as when things like Covid, the Maui fire, runway closures in Hawaii, etc etc hit it’s a guaranteed cash flow unaffected by things that hurt passenger traffic to Hawaii. Perhaps Alaska plans on being an all Boeing airline for passenger traffic only? Can’t see AS getting rid of that, nice cash flow for their balance sheet. 12. CriticalObserver says: January 17, 2024 at 3:18 pm @Andys “European is always better. American is a land of rednecks.” Really? Where would NATO be, without America? Perhaps you prefer to speak Russian, instead? Furthermore, your English is definitely NOT better, as your grammar in “American is a land …” is totally atrocious! 13. James says: January 17, 2024 at 3:27 pm Andy you’re a coward like the rest of the European population. America is always saving your soft crybaby butts 14. etraveler says: January 17, 2024 at 4:19 pm Spirit AeroSystems also produces many of the components for Airbus aircraft. 15. Donald Marzke says: January 17, 2024 at 4:30 pm Airbus has had their issues in the past also. LEAVE A REPLY Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked * Comment * Name * Email * Website Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Notify me of new posts by email. Δ * Facebook * Instagram * RSS * Twitter CURRENT HOT DEALS! 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