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1500 MILES WITH ELECTRIFY AMERICA

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Drove from SW FL to northern MI. 23 GT line RWD. Stopped at a dozen EA stations.
Observations:

1. Plenty of stations. I stopped at more than necessary stations b/c I was
worried the next one would be inoperable.
2. Doubt I would have made it w/o EA as filtering on level 3 fast chargers on
PlugShare shows relatively few, and they are just singles often away from hiway.
3. Every station had at least one charger inoperable.
4. Inoperable chargers would sometimes show unavailable but others would show
ready and then fail to charge. Most irritating was location showing 3 of 4
available but on arrival all 3 showed "ready" but failed to charge. The one
charger listed as in use was actually available and worked.
5. The placement at some locations is crummy. For example, at a Walmart EA
stations were set within normal busy parking spaces, so it was hard to jockey in
and out, especially if you have to back in.
6. Locations with chargers facing each other have very narrow parking spaces, so
be careful. And watch out for those poles placed so that you can hit them (see
pic).


7. Fastest charging was at the Volkswagen plant in TN at 235kw. Slowest 30kw.
8. There is really no difference between the 350 and 150 chargers. Often had 150
chargers pumping out 185kw and 350 chargers not exceeding 120kw.
9. I typically finished charging before other folks, tho of course lots of
variables at play. But seemed that EV6 charged faster than others. Lyriq owner
complained how slowly it charged.
10. In MI saw a couple yet to be unveiled Maserati EVs in testing mode.
11. Don't plan on having bathrooms nearby.
12. My first time with the HDA. What a super system!


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MICHEL

· #2 · May 22, 2023
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The 150 charger pulling 185 ... I wonder if it's internally a 200, or a 350 that
fails to operate consistently so it got downrated (the same way CPU are binned
based on how fast they can operate in a stable way)
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· #3 · May 26, 2023
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EA only has 1 job. And that's to update and maintain their chargers. The CEO of
EA should be embarrassed and ashamed. Millions of dollars in govt funding and
their network still sucks

How on earth does Tesla maintain a perfect network while also producing hundreds
of thousands of cars every year.

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RKR

· #4 · May 26, 2023
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DW and I are about to embark on a 3,000 mile (round trip) drive from central
Missouri to Miami and back in our EV6. I did load the new nav updates with
charger route planning. Seeing the OP's experience is, well, not exactly
comforting but not as bad as I could have imagined it being. Likewise, we'll be
planning a conservative itinerary to reduce the likelihood of being stranded due
to an OOO charging station. I'd like each stop to have a backup secondary locale
if possible. Does ABRP have an option to plan stops with a secondary station
within range?

Just last week we did a 600 mile round trip between central MO and Bentonville
AR. We charged three times, no issues. But charger density was uncomfortably
low. Had one of those stations been OOO we'd be in a fine mess.

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SNOOPYFL

· #5 · May 26, 2023
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Buy a Tesla to J1772 Adapter plug so you can charge your car at tesla
destination chargers. They're available in many locations, including hotels,
malls, friend's house etc.

Open a chargepoint account so you can charge on their network if EA isn't
available.

install plugshare app to search for chargers in your area.

Buy a portable battery jumper just in case you need to jump start your car

Good luck!

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RKR

· #6 · May 26, 2023
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> SnoopyFL said:
> Buy a Tesla to J1772 Adapter plug so you can charge your car at tesla
> destination chargers. They're available in many locations, including hotels,
> malls, friend's house etc.
> 
> Open a chargepoint account so you can charge on their network if EA isn't
> available.
> 
> install plugshare app to search for chargers in your area.
> 
> Buy a portable battery jumper just in case you need to jump start your car
> 
> Good luck!
> Click to expand...

Yep. Already have a Tesla Tap and accounts on four different charge companies.

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BCANCELLIERE

· #7 · May 26, 2023
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> rkr said:
> DW and I are about to embark on a 3,000 mile (round trip) drive from central
> Missouri to Miami and back in our EV6. I did load the new nav updates with
> charger route planning. Seeing the OP's experience is, well, not exactly
> comforting but not as bad as I could have imagined it being. Likewise, we'll
> be planning a conservative itinerary to reduce the likelihood of being
> stranded due to an OOO charging station. I'd like each stop to have a backup
> secondary locale if possible. Does ABRP have an option to plan stops with a
> secondary station within range?
> 
> Just last week we did a 600 mile round trip between central MO and Bentonville
> AR. We charged three times, no issues. But charger density was uncomfortably
> low. Had one of those stations been OOO we'd be in a fine mess.
> Click to expand...

My understanding is the Buc-ee's have a number of EV chargers at each location.
That information may not have been plugged into ABRP. You may want to call to
confirm that.

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ELECTRIC DRAGON

· #8 · May 27, 2023
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I did 1000 miles a couple weeks ago and found one ray of hope: the 6 EA chargers
at a Sheetz station were all working and charged at 240kw, faster than any I’ve
seen elsewhere. Plus the Sheetz has everything you need. Bathrooms, snacks,
tables inside and outside, etc.

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ROY.W.WILSON

· #9 · May 27, 2023
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> SnoopyFL said:
> EA only has 1 job. And that's to update and maintain their chargers. The CEO
> of EA should be embarrassed and ashamed. Millions of dollars in govt funding
> and their network still sucks
> 
> How on earth does Tesla maintain a perfect network while also producing
> hundreds of thousands of cars every year.
> Click to expand...

Agree 100%. Throw in the facts that stations are broken for MONTHS. The one in
Columbia has had on 2 connections out of the 8 (4 units) working for over 3
months and Florence was similar. On the trip we are on, we added 2 hours of
charging time instead of 35 minutes to our 6+ hour trip. One charger maxed out
at 43kW. Can I trade my EA kW for another company????

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· #10 · May 27, 2023
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I recently purchased my EV6 in GA and had to drive it back to NJ (850 mi.). I
was able to plot my route using the Plugshare App, filtering on EA stations. I
was impressed with both the Plugshare App and the EA stations. First stop after
leaving the dealer with a full charge was 250 miles. Every subsequent leg was
about 175 miles. Every place I stopped had 8 - 14 chargers. Never experienced a
problem getting a 100+kw charge. Always was on my way in about 20 minutes. I
read all the horror stories and was not sure what to expect, but I can at least
report that the stations on my route were great!
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JEFFH

· #11 · May 28, 2023
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> JP-EV6 said:
> I recently purchased my EV6 in GA and had to drive it back to NJ (850 mi.). I
> was able to plot my route using the Plugshare App, filtering on EA stations. I
> was impressed with both the Plugshare App and the EA stations. First stop
> after leaving the dealer with a full charge was 250 miles. Every subsequent
> leg was about 175 miles. Every place I stopped had 8 - 14 chargers. Never
> experienced a problem getting a 100+kw charge. Always was on my way in about
> 20 minutes. I read all the horror stories and was not sure what to expect, but
> I can at least report that the stations on my route were great!
> Click to expand...

Charging stations with 8 to 14 chargers? Where? I've never seen that many at an
EA station here in Ohio or driving through Indiana, Illinois, or Wisconsin.

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ARTGPO

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Buc-Ees has Tesla Superchargers. The State of Texas as part of the Dieselgate,
is installing chargers across the state at 50 mile intervals. I have not seen
any of these yet nor read about their completion. If you stick to the interstate
highways you might be ok. This is Texas where oil conservatism reigns supreme so
I expect it will be the last state to admit that there is an EV revolution
taking place. Heck, just this past week the bill raising the fee for EV license
plate registrations was raised to $200 a year after an initial $400 was signed
into law. The average ICE driver pays an equivalent $130 in state gasoline tax.

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> jeffh said:
> Charging stations with 8 to 14 chargers? Where? I've never seen that many at
> an EA station here in Ohio or driving through Indiana, Illinois, or Wisconsin.
> Click to expand...

I was traveling along Interstates 85 and 95. I made stops in NC (the station in
Charlotte, NC actually had 16 chargers), VA, and DE. After looking again, I
noted the station in DE only had 6 chargers...
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JEFFH

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> JP-EV6 said:
> I was traveling along Interstates 85 and 95. I made stops in NC (the station
> in Charlotte, NC actually had 16 chargers), VA, and DE. After looking again, I
> noted the station in DE only had 6 chargers...
> Click to expand...

Wow -- 16 chargers. Amazing.

I look forward to the day when that is the norm, and not just for EA but for
other CCS-based charging companies, here in the mid-west. I do look on with a
bit of envy when I see new Tesla Supercharging stations going in around me, many
with eight to ten chargers -- though not enough to consider a Tesla anything
over the EV6.

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AG5BPILOT

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> JP-EV6 said:
> I recently purchased my EV6 in GA and had to drive it back to NJ (850 mi.). I
> was able to plot my route using the Plugshare App, filtering on EA stations. I
> was impressed with both the Plugshare App and the EA stations. First stop
> after leaving the dealer with a full charge was 250 miles. Every subsequent
> leg was about 175 miles. Every place I stopped had 8 - 14 chargers. Never
> experienced a problem getting a 100+kw charge. Always was on my way in about
> 20 minutes. I read all the horror stories and was not sure what to expect, but
> I can at least report that the stations on my route were great!
> Click to expand...

It depends where you are. Heading north/south along either coast and there's
tons of chargers. Heading east/west from coast to coast and there's often a
single DC charger installation -- sometime only a single charger -- with no
backup if it's down.

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DIVE BAR CASANOVA

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12 Electrify America EV chargers in Baker Calif. Solar powered with a 2.5
Megawatt powerwall.
I've used it 4 times and was lucky if even 3 chargers were working, usually 2 so
I travel these parts in the middle of the night when their are fewer users.



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> Dive Bar Casanova said:
> 12 Electrify America EV chargers in Baker Calif. Solar powered with a 2.5
> Megawatt powerwall.
> I've used it 4 times and was lucky if even 3 chargers were working, usually 2
> so I travel these parts in the middle of the night when their are fewer users.
> Click to expand...

Out of 12 chargers, only a fraction are functional?

Argh.

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From Plugshare it looks like the station was rebuilt the beginning of May. Since
then the checkins have been mostly positive.

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DIVE BAR CASANOVA

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I've resolved myself if I can at the least get a 30KW charge on the road, I'm
good to go. If a charger is even available,, I feel like a Kennedy.

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