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> morning they think of another seven. Well, the computer can do a hundred
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to a global technological leader. He served as chief executive officer and
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Refounding of America.

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and clerked for Justice David Souter of the US Supreme Court.

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Problem — and What We Should Do About It; What We Owe Iraq: War and the Ethics
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member. Outside of work, she is a (very) amateur rap artist and an investor in
Broadway shows, two of which have won Tony Awards.

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Previously, Chris was co-founder and CEO of Grove (acquired by Wealthfront),
co-founder of Milk (acquired by Google), and a partner at Google Ventures, where
he focused on seed and early stage investments.

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of what I had written and listened to several interviews, and this is intended
to be an updated guide to all things podcasting.

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Posted on October 13, 2021October 13, 2021

HOW ANIMALS DISCOVER AND USE MEDICINES

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This guest post from Dr. Mark Plotkin (@DocMarkPlotkin) features an excerpt from
his book Medicine Quest: In Search of Nature’s Healing Secrets. I loved the
chapter on how animals use medicinal plants so much that I published the audio
version on the podcast. If you prefer the audio version, narrated by Mark, click
here.

Mark is an ethnobotanist who serves as president of the Amazon Conservation
Team, which has partnered with ~80 tribes to map and improve management and
protection of ~100 million acres of ancestral rainforests. He is best known to
the general public as the author of the book Tales of a Shaman’s Apprentice, one
of the most popular books ever written about the rainforest. His most recent
book is The Amazon: What Everyone Needs to Know. You can find my first interview
with Mark at tim.blog/markplotkin.

Mark is also the host of the Plants of the Gods podcast, through which you can
learn about everything from hallucinogenic snuffs to the diverse formulations of
curare (a plant mixture which relaxes the muscles of the body and leads to
asphyxiation), and much, much more.

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Biologists studying animals in the wild are typically discouraged from giving
their study animal names so as not to anthropomorphize them; in other words, not
to think of them as friends or pets. Jane Goodall — one of the greatest field
biologists of all time — has always disagreed. I overheard a discussion between
her and another biologist in the early 1980s. The zoologist asked her, “Why do
you give your chimps names? Is that really scientific?”

Without missing a beat, Jane asked him, “Do you have a dog?”

“Yes,” he replied.

“Does your dog have a personality,” she asked.

“Of course,” he replied.

“Well,” said Jane, “I bet my chimps have at least as much personality as your
dog!”

Many years later — when I was studying the history of wine as medicine in the
ancient world — I mentioned the project to Jane. “You know that drinking alcohol
wasn’t invented by humans, don’t you? Chimps periodically get drunk on fermented
marula fruit, as do elephants and baboons and other species as well!”

As an ethnobotanist who studies how indigenous peoples find and use medicinal
plants of the rainforest, this was a revelation. Could some of this medicinal
plant wisdom been first learned of from the Animal Kingdom?

In the summer of 1980, I had the opportunity to wander in the once great
rainforests of eastern Brazil. The early European explorers were awestruck by
the beauty and diversity of these tropical forests, which stretched in an
enormous unbroken arc from the easternmost tip of Brazil hundreds of miles south
into what is now Paraguay and northern Argentina. However, what remains is a
fragment of what once was: small, isolated pockets of forest, home to a handful
of species: more than 96 percent of the original forest cover has been
destroyed. And as I wandered through those distant patches of jungle, the sounds
of trucks, bulldozers, radios, and human voices surrounded me on all sides, a
constant reminder that our civilization was in the final throes of obliterating
the little that was left.

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THE HIDDEN KNOWLEDGE OF ANIMALS — MARK PLOTKIN ON NATURE’S MEDICINE CABINET
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> “The study of how animals use plants for medicinal purposes is termed
> ‘zoopharmacognosy,’ but our observation of this phenomenon is, without
> question, an ancient practice. Who has not watched a dog swallow grass to
> induce vomiting when the animal has eaten something unhealthy it wishes to
> regurgitate?”
>
> — Dr. Mark Plotkin

This special episode of The Tim Ferriss Show features Dr. Mark
Plotkin (@DocMarkPlotkin) .

He is also the host of the Plants of the Gods podcast, through which you can
learn about everything from hallucinogenic snuffs to the diverse formulations of
curare (a plant mixture which relaxes the muscles of the body and leads to
asphyxiation), and much, much more.

Today’s episode focuses on how animals use medicinal plants, and it has some
wild stories featuring cows, penguins, pigs, frogs, and everything in between.
It’s pulled from a chapter in Mark’s book Medicine Quest: In Search of Nature’s
Healing Secrets. I loved the chapter, and I asked Mark if he’d be willing to
record it in audio to share it with you all. He agreed and here we are.

Please enjoy!

If you prefer to read the chapter, you can find the full text here.

Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict,
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DIANA CHAPMAN — HOW TO GET UNSTUCK, DO “THE WORK,” TAKE RADICAL RESPONSIBILITY,
AND REDUCE DRAMA IN YOUR LIFE (#536)

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> “Anything other than a ‘whole-body yes’ is a no.”
>
> — Diana Chapman

Diana Chapman is a co-founder of the Conscious Leadership Group and a co-author
of the book The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership. Her passion is to help
organizational leaders and their teams eliminate drama in the workplace and
beyond. She has worked with more than 1,000 CEOs and is a well-respected
facilitator for the Young Presidents Organization (YPO), working with their
forums and chapters worldwide.

She has been a speaker at TEDx, Mindful Leadership Summit, Wisdom 2.0, Stanford
Graduate School of Business, and more.

When Diana is not with her clients, she can often be found gardening at her
suburban homestead in the Santa Cruz Mountains of California. She lives there
with her husband of over 30 years.

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GENERAL STANLEY MCCHRYSTAL — MASTERING RISK: A USER’S GUIDE (#535)

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> “The idea that we want to mitigate risk to zero before we act is really common
> and really costly.”
>
> — General Stanley McChrystal

General Stanley McChrystal (@stanmcchrystal) was called “one of America’s
greatest warriors” by Secretary of Defense Robert Gates. Having held leadership
and staff positions in the Army Special Forces, Army Rangers, 82nd Airborne
Division, the XVIII Army Airborne Corp, and the Joint Staff, McChrystal became
commander of JSOC in 2003, responsible for leading the nation’s deployed
military counterterrorism efforts around the globe. His leadership is credited
with the 2003 capture of Saddam Hussein and the 2006 locating and killing of Abu
Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq. In June 2009, McChrystal
received his fourth star and assumed command of all international forces in
Afghanistan.

General McChrystal founded the McChrystal Group in January 2011, an advisory
services firm that helps businesses challenge the hierarchical “command and
control” approach to organizational management.

He is a senior fellow at Yale University’s Jackson Institute for Global Affairs,
where he teaches a course on leadership, and he is the author of the bestselling
leadership books My Share of the Task: A Memoir; Team of Teams: New Rules of
Engagement for a Complex World; and Leaders: Myth and Reality. His new book is
Risk: A User’s Guide. He is also the co-host (with former Navy SEAL Chris
Fussell) of the No Turning Back podcast, where they explore the future of
leadership and teams with the world’s most consequential leaders.

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MICHAEL DELL, FOUNDER OF DELL — EARLY FAILURES, BATTLING CARL ICAHN, LEARNING
FROM THE COMPETITION, AND HOW TO PLAY NICE BUT WIN (#534)

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> “You learn a lot more from your customers than you do from the competition.”
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> — Michael Dell

Michael Dell (@MichaelDell) is chairman and chief executive officer of Dell
Technologies, an innovator and technology leader providing the essential
infrastructure for organizations to build their digital future, transform IT,
and protect their most important information. He is the author of Play Nice But
Win: A CEO’s Journey from Founder to Leader.

Michael is an honorary member of the Foundation Board of the World Economic
Forum and is an executive committee member of the International Business
Council. In 1999, he and his wife, Susan Dell, established the Michael & Susan
Dell Foundation.

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