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LIFE AFTER DAFT PUNK: THOMAS BANGALTER ON BALLET, AI AND DITCHING THE HELMET

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By Mark Savage
BBC Music Correspondent


For 28 years, Daft Punk blurred the lines between man and machine on hits like
Da Funk, One More Time and Get Lucky. Now, as he turns his hand to ballet, one
of the duo has a warning about Artificial Intelligence and the "obsolescence of
man".

By the time Daft Punk broke up in 2021, Thomas Bangalter and Guy-Manuel de
Homem-Christo had irrevocably changed the sound of modern pop.

Everyone from Madonna to Kanye West copied their chopped and filtered house
sound. They were (inaccurately) blamed for the rise of disposable Euro-dance.
And then, in a typically audacious move, they went analogue.

Released in 2013, their final album, Random Access Memories was a lush,
colourful tribute to the soul, disco and soft rock they'd been raised on. Built
from the ground up with live musicians, it won the Grammy for album of the year.

And then, they just stopped.

The band announced their split with a typically enigmatic video. Dressed as the
two robot characters they'd inhabited since 1999, Bangalter and de Homem-Christo
waved goodbye, walked off screen, and one of them self-destructed. Daft Punk,
their publicist confirmed, were over.



So what next?

For Bangalter, the answer lay in his childhood.

His mother and his aunt were both dancers, and his uncle a dance instructor. So
when France's foremost contemporary choreographer, Angelin Preljocaj, asked him
to score a new ballet, the answer was simple: Yes.

"This project was a way back to the environment I was presented with when I was
very young," he explains.

"My mother passed about 20 years ago and going back to that world is linked to a
certain time of my life. So it adds some nostalgia, but at the same time, it was
a very new adventure."

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Bangalter's ballet score, which premiered in Bordeaux last year, is now being
released as an album.

Mythologies, which premiered last July in France, brings together dancers from
the Ballet Preljocaj and the Opéra National de Bordeaux, telling stories from
ancient folklore, from Icarus and Zeus to Aphrodite and the Amazons.



Combining the approach of the two ensembles - one classical, the other
contemporary - the aim is to explore how historic conflicts over gender
identity, sexual violence and war continue to have repercussions today.

The concept would seemingly demand a score that mixed ancient and modern
approaches. Preljocaj, who had used Daft Punk songs in previous shows, certainly
thought so. But Bangalter had other ideas.

"I liked the idea of writing music that was not amplified, that didn't require
any electricity," he says. "It was just me and the scoring paper."

Work started in 2019, only to be interrupted by Covid-19.

"It was somehow lockdown-compatible as a process," says Bangalter, who used the
extra time to embark on a "crash course in orchestration".

"The first step was to read orchestration treatises from Rimsky-Korsakov or
Berlioz and understand the rules I wanted to follow and to not follow and to
break. It was a very humbling process, for sure."



The structure of the ballet helped. Instead of a long symphonic work with
distinct movements and motifs, Mythologies works almost as a pop album, with 16
separate "frescos", each requiring its own musical setting.

Les Amazones, for example, is a rhythmically playful workout for the strings;
while Minotaure prowls around the orchestra with sinister, tremoring bass notes
from the cellos and the brass.

"As a novice, I liked the idea of eclecticism and variety, and having freedom in
the overall structure," he says.

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Each of the ancient myths is set to its own distinct piece of music

Although he'd written for an orchestra before, notably on the soundtrack to
2010's Tron: Legacy, some of Bangalter's ideas didn't make sense when presented
to the players.

"The nature of what I was asking them to play, sometimes even in terms of the
management of their breath, was not practical."

Conductor Romain Dumas would advise when he'd overstepped the mark. "Then I'd
have to go back and find a new solution," he says. "As a process, it was just
fascinating."

Bangalter channelled that learning into a piece called L'Accouchement, or
childbirth. Rather than draw on his experiences as a father (he has two sons
with French actress Élodie Bouchez), he made it a meditation on the creative
process.

"It's something with a lot of tension that somehow leads to a peaceful moment of
happiness. This was a good metaphor for how I approached this project, when I
was a little bit scared."

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Writing in isolation, Bangalter often had no idea of how the choreography was
progressing, making rehearsals a revelation.

"My favourite moment was seeing what had been a very solitary process of many
months in my study, leading to 55 musicians performing the music and 20 dancers
on stage.

"It was amazing to witness living theatre again, after this moment of separation
and solitude."

Reviews, however, were mixed.

The "chiselled, intense, and hard-hitting" choreography is illuminated by
Bangalter's "nervous" but "lyrical" score, wrote Amaury Jacquet in Publikart.

Radio France was less impressed, describing the music as "a bad Hollywood
soundtrack at worst, rhythmic orchestral pop at best".

No, no, no, it was "beautiful and flawless," argued Guillaume Monnier in Le
Bonbon Nuit. However, he added, "the music does not seem to want to stand out
from the dance... Too contemplative, perhaps?"

Listeners can make their own decision when the music is released by Erato/Warner
Classics this Friday. Divorced from the ballet, you can hear echoes of Vivaldi,
Monteverdi, American minimalism and film composers like Bernard Herrmann, while
Daft Punk's wit and warmth percolates beneath the surface.

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Daft Punk won six Grammy Awards, including album of the year and record of the
year (for Get Lucky) in 2014.

Coincidentally, the album is coming out at the same time as a 10th anniversary
edition of Random Access Memories, stuffed with outtakes and demos. Among them
is a fascinating, fly-on-the-wall recording of Bangalter and US singer Todd
Edwards writing Fragments of Time in the studio.

"It's fun because it was quite unexpected," says Bangalter. "Todd and I weren't
aware the engineer was recording the session, so we were able to be very
spontaneous."

In the audio, the duo freestyle over the music, trading ideas as the song takes
shape. When Edwards sings, "Faces that I've seen in dreams", Bangalter suggests
the more impressionistic, "Familiar faces I've never seen". Edwards is so taken
with the line that he starts giggling. After that, the song almost writes
itself.

"It was a beautiful moment... very joyful."

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The decision to peel back the curtain could only have been taken after the
band's demise, he says.

"Daft Punk was a project that blurred the line between reality and fiction with
these robot characters. It was a very important point for me and Guy-Man[uel] to
not spoil the narrative while it was happening.

"Now the story has ended, it felt interesting to reveal part of the creative
process that is very much human-based and not algorithmic of any sort."

That was, he says, Daft Punk's central thesis: That the line between humanity
and technology should remain absolute.

"It was an exploration, I would say, starting with the machines and going away
from them. I love technology as a tool [but] I'm somehow terrified of the nature
of the relationship between the machines and ourselves."

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Unmasked: Thomas Bangalter at the 2019 Cannes Film Festival.

He talks as a debate rages over the use of Artificial Intelligence in music
creation. David Guetta has called it "the future" while Nick Cave says it's a
"travesty". Where does Bangalter fall?

"My concerns about the rise of artificial intelligence go beyond its use in
music creation," he says, suddenly serious.

"2001: A Space Odyssey is maybe my favourite film and the way [Stanley] Kubrick
presented it is so relevant today - because he is asking exactly the question
that we have to ask ourselves about technology and the obsolescence of man."

That's always been his position, he stresses. It's just that people sometimes
misinterpreted Daft Punk's aesthetic as an unquestioning embrace of digital
culture.

"I almost consider the character of the robots like a Marina Abramović
performance art installation that lasted for 20 years," he says.

"We tried to use these machines to express something extremely moving that a
machine cannot feel, but a human can. We were always on the side of humanity and
not on the side of technology."

That's why 2021 was the right time to pull the plug on the project.

"As much as I love this character, the last thing I would want to be, in the
world we live in, in 2023, is a robot."


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