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“IT IS DIFFICULT. BUT I FIGHT ON, BECAUSE IF I DON’T, EVERYTHING WILL BE THE
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T.J., a serving police officer, and Rowan, a member of the public, sit opposite
each other in a dimly-lit interview room. They begin a conversation.

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T.J.: Being a police officer teaches you how to accept

00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:05.760
that people are different, that they live their lives differently.

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You get to share moments with complete strangers.

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Rowan: I couldn’t do your job

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T.J.: Why?

00:00:14.760 --> 00:00:16.440
Rowan: I was just worried about...

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what my family would think about me.

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T.J.: People are gonna have an issue with it.

00:00:20.720 --> 00:00:22.920
I know that from personal experience.

00:00:24.360 --> 00:00:26.920
I lost friends when I joined the police.

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It was difficult.

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It is difficult.

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But I fight on

00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:36.080
because if... I don’t do it then

00:00:36.080 --> 00:00:38.520
everything will be the same for the next generation.

00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:42.080
You are me, 14, 15 years ago.

00:00:42.080 --> 00:00:45.480
You know, saying:'It can’t happen.'

00:00:45.480 --> 00:00:47.720
Rowan: I know for me, when I was thinking about

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joining the police,

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I wanted to be a dog handler but then my look started changing,

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started to get tattoos, grew dreads.

00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:00.640
You don’t really see Black police officers with dreads.

00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:02.160
T.J.: There’s loads of Black officers with dreads.

00:01:02.160 --> 00:01:02.680
Rowan: Really?

00:01:02.680 --> 00:01:03.480
T.J.: Yeah man.

00:01:03.480 --> 00:01:05.400
Rowan: What like long formed? Or...

00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:09.040
T.J.: Yeah. Long down to their back, dreads.

00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:10.880
Rowan: Wow, OK.

00:01:10.880 --> 00:01:14.680
Rowan: So I got stopped and searched a lot.

00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:15.480
T.J.: Yeah.

00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:18.400
Rowan: Just, you know,another Black guy,

00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:20.280
looking suspicious, I guess.

00:01:20.280 --> 00:01:25.200
T.J.: Yeah, I’ve been told that I fit the description of a recent robbery

00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:26.720
and I was wearing dark clothing.

00:01:26.720 --> 00:01:27.800
I wear dark hoodies all the time.

00:01:27.800 --> 00:01:28.680
Rowan: Yeah.

00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:29.760
T.J.: You know,

00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:31.960
Why? Why have you stopped me?

00:01:31.960 --> 00:01:34.720
Now I have the knowledge,so I ask the right questions.

00:01:34.720 --> 00:01:35.640
Rowan: Uh-huh.

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T.J.: Personally believe that stop and search is a good tool to be used

00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:43.400
in the right way,but at the same time,

00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:45.400
we have been stopped and searched unnecessarily.

00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:48.080
I have been stopped and searched unnecessarily.

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I don’t want my children,nor their children after them

00:01:51.600 --> 00:01:53.080
to be concerned about that.

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I want them to drive past,you know, a police car,

00:01:56.880 --> 00:01:59.480
‘ah there’s a there’s a brother in there, there’s a sister in there’.

00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:02.680
It will be natural to see ourselves in these roles,

00:02:02.680 --> 00:02:05.640
it will be natural to see high ranking

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police officers who can effect change.

00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:09.040
But it can’t be done from outside,

00:02:09.040 --> 00:02:10.440
it has to be done from inside.

00:02:10.440 --> 00:02:12.840
We need people like you,

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so that we don’t have to feel uncomfortable.

We see a brief close-up of a whirring tape deck recording the conversation,
before cutting to a wide shot of the two men.

00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:17.920
Rowan: So being a Black police officer,

00:02:17.920 --> 00:02:20.680
what do you think about the whole BLM movement?

00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:27.720
T.J.: It pains me that, you know, I had to see somebody that is me

00:02:27.720 --> 00:02:31.000
lose their life again for the vehicle to start up again

00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:34.960
and I just think that we need to keep the pace with that.

00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:37.240
Conversations like this,
00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:40.360
are giving us seats at tables that we

00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:43.440
should have been sitting at a long time ago.

00:02:43.440 --> 00:02:45.960
And I am just

00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:49.720
aware that we need to make sure that the correct voices

00:02:49.720 --> 00:02:52.240
are sat at these tables.

00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:57.080
Rowan: Have you seen more Black police officers joining?

00:02:57.080 --> 00:02:58.880
T.J.: Yeah man, yeah definitely.

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We are in areas that we wouldn’t have been before;

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Firearms. You know, detectives and...

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We are in these roles and we are excellent.

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At everything.

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Rowan: What’s your proudest moment so far?

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T.J.: Proudest moment in the job was

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stopping a murder.

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It was a domestic incident.

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On the way to the actual flat itself, we could hear screams.

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Eventually gained access, ran up to the second floor,

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Just got there, what would have appeared to be, in time.

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You know, what she kept saying afterwards is:

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‘He probably would have killed me in the house.’

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So that is my standout moment

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from my career up to this point.

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Rowan: So what is your most favourite part of the job?

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T.J.: Strangely enough just 

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being able to communicate with different people.

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Communication, you know, is what we use to solve things.

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Being a police officer teaches you how to accept

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that people are different, that they live their lives differently.

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You get to share

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moments with complete strangers that blow your mind.

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You get to do things in special ways for people that,

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You know, will literally,

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they will come back and tell you that you changed 

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their life for the better.

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