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UNITED AIRLINES THREATENS TO TERMINATE FLIGHT ATTENDANTS WHO USE PERSONAL
DEVICES IN JUMPSEAT
Matthew Klint Posted onJanuary 26, 2024January 26, 2024 40 Comments
United Airlines is cracking down on flight attendants who use their own personal
devices onboard, warning of discipline including job termination for those who
do not abide by the rule prohibiting the use of such devices when seated in a
jumpseat.
UNITED AIRLINES TO FLIGHT ATTENDANTS: NO PERSONAL DEVICES IN JUMPSEAT
In a memo to flight attendants shared with Live And Let’s Fly by several flight
attendants, United has reminded its cabin crew that it is “required” to offer
“visible and attentive service to customers.”
> “Neither is possible if a flight attendant is using a personal electronic
> device onboard.”
The memo warns that using a personal mobile phone in the jumpseat can lead to:
* missing an onboard security incident
* causing personal injury or injury to a jumpseat partner on landing if not
properly braced
* an inadvertent slide deployment if the personal device is held during the
disarming of aircraft doors
In terms of service, the memo asks:
> “Customers look to flight attendants for great service. How comfortable would
> you be asking someone for help if they were engrossed in their cell phone?
> What impression would that give you?…Even in public, you should always remain
> approachable in uniform and display courtesy to customers and other
> employees.”
Consequently, the following rule is emphasized:
> Use of a personal electronic device and/or accessories is not permitted while
> customers are on board the aircraft, with the exception of crew rest.
And for those who do not follow this rule? Discipline, up to and including
termination.
> “Any crewmember found in violation will be subject to performance discipline
> up to and including termination.”
For better or for worse, we live in a world in which people are glued to their
mobile phones. On the street. In restaurants. On trains. Certainly on aircraft,
too. And in my experience, this is true for flight attendants too.
United is right to note both the safety concern and the unprofessionalism of a
flight attendant glued to a mobile phone. Even during breaks, it is simply not
professional for a FA to be engrossed in a phone.
Note, this rule does not apply to United-issued iPhones given to flight
attendants to conduct service onbaord and communicate between crew members.
CONCLUSION
United Airlines has reminded its flight attendants that personal devices are not
allowed onboard, unless in a crew rest area. A failure to abide by these rules
may result in termination.
The harsh punishment for failing to abide by the rules suggests the seriousness
of this problem. As a frequent United flyer, it will be interesting to see if
there will be less use of personal mobile phones going forward with the threat
of discipline now clearly laid out.
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40 COMMENTS
1. Santastico Reply
January 26, 2024 at 12:47 pm
Well, then United will have to hire older FAs. The current generation
cannot function without using a smart phone so they won’t be able to work
for United.
* Aaron Reply
January 26, 2024 at 1:27 pm
Nah. If it wasn’t smartphones they’d be wasting their time using some
other medium like a book, magazine, crossword puzzles, sudoku, etc. Lots
of younger people are able to put their phones down while working, this
is more about lax corporate work culture in the airlines induestry that
anything else.
* Santastico Reply
January 26, 2024 at 3:58 pm
You are correct. At the same time I think this is a very difficult
situation. Yes, I understand FAs are supposed to work for the entire
duration of the flight but at the same time on very long flights when
most passengers are sleeping, there is actually not much for them to do
for periods of time so checking their phones would not be a huge
problem but rules are rules.
* Alert Reply
January 26, 2024 at 2:56 pm
@Santastico … Mostly agree … Except they really do NOT Function in the
slightest with any mobile phone in their hand . A mobile phone is like a
handcuff locking their brain dead .
* Santastico Reply
January 26, 2024 at 4:01 pm
The word function was used to be nice. The young generation is mostly
useless. They don’t know how to talk to other people. They don’t know
how to interact with other people. They need a smartphone to be able to
communicate with the world. It is very sad. I read the other day a
study showing that gen Z has issues with anxiety when they need to talk
on the phone or have a face to face conversation.
* Mike Mohler Reply
January 26, 2024 at 9:59 pm
Cell phones turn people into complete morons. They will cause the end
of the human race.
* Ryan Reply
January 27, 2024 at 3:30 pm
So when you have flight attendants on an aircraft for up to 20 hours a
day and tied to the aircraft, when do you suggest they look at their
phones?
* Michael Stone Reply
January 29, 2024 at 4:51 pm
Yay to 50 plus fa’s…… it’s a good thing
* whocares Reply
January 29, 2024 at 7:49 pm
they are SICKphones which MicroWI-FI your brain.
2. DWT Reply
January 26, 2024 at 1:01 pm
I guess my question is, how will this be enforced? US carriers don’t have
cabin crew supervisor positions on board, and most UA crew certainly aren’t
going to let you take photos of them, so it would presumably be up to
reporting amongst crew members– who are all unionized. I know UA crew don’t
like those who snitch!
* Michael Stone Reply
January 29, 2024 at 4:52 pm
ahahahahajajahahaha ahahahahajajahahaha
3. NedsKid Reply
January 26, 2024 at 1:10 pm
This largely unsupervised workforce will be hard hold accountable. So
either reports from coworkers or customers will be used, which aren’t great
ideas.
Though I agree with the sentiment… I have a good friend of mine who is a
flight attendant for a major airline and we will be texting and I’ll get a
“brb, need to do a trash run” so guess it’s during a flight…
4. RV Reply
January 26, 2024 at 1:32 pm
I’d say probably on a good 20-25% of my flights on UA, FAs are just texting
on their phones in the jumpseat during takeoff.
5. Justsaying Reply
January 26, 2024 at 1:51 pm
This is a rule at Delta and Southwest as well. I heard United doesn’t
tolerate snitches well
6. InLA Reply
January 26, 2024 at 2:10 pm
This is reasonable and necessary. If UA, or any other airline, was lax
about enforcing FAA and its own airline safety standards then it would be
much more difficult to criticize Boeing for not doing the same. I bet the
Boeing scandal has made UA take a closer look at its own standards and
practices during a company-wide safety evaluation and this was one result.
On another plus note, if FAAs of all airlines spend more time looking about
the cabin and making eye contact with customers (and smiling), the it could
lead to more positive experiences for both FAA and customers. It would also
cut down on customers having to walk to the galley and ask for something
because they can’t get a FAA’s attention from their seats.
* Justsaying Reply
January 26, 2024 at 2:20 pm
I will say this passengers need to a better job of noticing when flight
attendants are in the aisle and doing cabin walk throughs and listening
to public announcements from the flight attendants and pilots. Passengers
will ring their call light asking for things when we were in the aisle
literally two seconds ago monitoring and checking in . That’s a prime
opportunity to ask. We are constantly having to treat grown adults like
children because they do not listen or pay attention. Just opening the
bathroom door is a complicated situation for most passengers
* Andy Reply
January 26, 2024 at 3:59 pm
Kinda painting all passengers the same. Maybe if flight attendants
didn’t zip through the cabin so quickly, the call light wouldn’t be
necessary. On my last flight, there wasn’t even an announcement the
flight attendant would be passing through to collect rubbish.
* Justsaying Reply
January 26, 2024 at 9:54 pm
We don’t make announcements we are coming through to collect trash.
The expectation is you use both your working eyes to realize a person
is walking through the aisle with a giant trash cart or big bags to
collect trash. It’s truly not rocket science I promise you. That’s
the problem with todays passengers they themselves are so engrossed
in themselves they can’t notice basic things or grasp such simple
concepts.
* Johannes Bols
January 29, 2024 at 8:46 pm
You have a rotten attitude. “Today’s passengers…” Really? Your
primary duty is to safely evacuate the aircraft. After that,
SERVICE is next. You complain about having to go out of your way to
help somebody. YOU are there for the PASSENGER, not the other way
around. And if you have such a problem interacting with or helping
a passenger, find yourself another job where you don’t interact
with others. You give the word service a seriously negative
connotation.
* Stuart Reply
January 26, 2024 at 11:51 pm
Customer facing jobs in ANY industry are met with levels of ignorance
or apathy to the worker. How you approach it is with empathy and a
“servers heart.” Not as a headmistress at a British boarding school in
1900.
If you can’t handle it, don’t do it. Your very comments here are at the
root of why US flight attendants are the embarrassment of the industry
globally. You hate your jobs, hate passengers, hate the career, and
blame everyone else. I’m starting to wonder if actually hating yourself
is the only requirement value the airlines have in the US in looking
for in hires.
* Terrón Po Eseculo Reply
January 28, 2024 at 4:58 pm
Well said as a retired FA of 3 decades I don’t missed not even a single
day. This days pax are a bunch of brats and disgusting creatures in my
opinion. Now I enjoy road trips that I never did before cruises and
trains haven’t been on 1 single flight last July in 30 months and ohh
boy
7. Emw Reply
January 26, 2024 at 3:31 pm
I foresee more and longer bathroom breaks, and other work arounds.
* Just saying Reply
January 28, 2024 at 9:00 am
What we hate is self entitled a holes like yourself who essentially can’t
whipe their own butt and expect to be spoon feed like Singapore Airlines.
Newsflash to you Stuart! US airlines will NEVER be like foreign carriers
and if you’re not aware most of them have a much higher turneover rate
such as Emirates. Being in customer service no longer means being a slave
to customers. You will follow are policies and procedures because that is
what we are trained on and you will stfu about it or be removed from the
plane. Too many crazy self entitled people like Stuart lately getting on
the plane and causing us to divert or making us remove passengers. It’s
only a matter of time before the system soon changes on passengers and
there will be no more time for us to tell you twice. I can’t wait until
the day I’m able to report passengers and fine them for not listening to
us. Shouldn’t have to tell a grown man he needs to put his phone or
laptop away three times. Shouldn’t have to tell a grown adult they
shouldn’t be getting up to use the restroom when we are on active taxi
when we literally warned you right before we landed. Can’t wait to just
fine your pathetic self entitled self. I’m sure you’re speaking from a
“privileged” perspective
* hedgef777 Reply
January 31, 2024 at 2:08 pm
Does this ranting individual have the right to be an FA, unionized or
otherwise? Are there personality tests for these unionized people?
8. ted poco Reply
January 26, 2024 at 3:37 pm
Does the rule extend to pilots?
* Spuwho Reply
January 28, 2024 at 4:55 pm
FAA explicitly bans personal device use while the aircraft is in flight.
Exceptions are for navigational aids like iPads, tablets or devices that
contain flight related software.
9. Sent from the jumpseat Reply
January 26, 2024 at 4:00 pm
Ok but what am I supposed to do for 9 hours in between services? Pax don’t
want to interact or chitchat constantly. I certainly don’t want to talk to
my colleagues that much, and on overnight flights pax would be rightfully
upset if there was loud chatter in the galley the entire flight. So I do my
cabin walkthrough every 15-20 minutes and I read on my iPad. I consistently
get compliments on my service and that is unaffected by my PED use.
If you’re a bad FA, you’re a bad FA. Reading a book or texting won’t change
that.
* Willieron Reply
January 27, 2024 at 3:53 pm
Interesting comment, I get your point. Instead of making an all
encompassing rule that may or may not make sense, start by training and
retention of high caliber employees.
10. Robb Reply
January 26, 2024 at 4:34 pm
Imma on the side of the Company on this one. Being on your phone during
taxi, takeoff, and inflight is a distraction both from a safety situation
(recent events) as well as perhaps a Passenger suddenly having a medical
emergency. If their mind was focused on the task/s at hand perhaps
passenger inflight services would actually improve.
* Alert Reply
January 26, 2024 at 5:48 pm
@Robb … “If their mind was focused” … ha-ha … that’s an optimistic idea ?
11. Steve Reply
January 26, 2024 at 5:08 pm
A personal device can activate a slide?
* Lea Reply
January 27, 2024 at 12:24 pm
I was wondering the same.
12. Andy K Reply
January 26, 2024 at 5:33 pm
What about a book or magazine? Don’t see the difference.
* Alert Reply
January 26, 2024 at 5:46 pm
@AndyK … mobile phone owners likely don’t read books ? Perhaps they do
tend to walk into outdoor fountains whilst studying their mobile phones ?
And rear-end other drivers whilst texting ?
13. Flyer Reply
January 26, 2024 at 7:46 pm
I always read my Bible on my phone. Sometimes Quran as well. So come at me.
14. Jesda Gulati Reply
January 27, 2024 at 2:23 am
I dont entirely agree with this. I’ve never had a customer service problem
due to an FA having a phone in hand. If I walk up to the galley or the
jumpseats and ask for a bottle of water, I’ve never been treated rudely or
dismissed for it. As for security alertness, maybe encourage more frequent
walkthroughs. That seems more effective than a mandate on devices.
15. Mind yours Reply
January 27, 2024 at 12:33 pm
Ironic that the picture used for the article has the FA holding a company
issued device
16. Just saying Reply
January 28, 2024 at 1:22 am
The flight attendants work device IS an iPhone. It has all of the flight
information, announcements, seat maps, and it’s how they process purchases
and meal orders. If your flight attendant is on a phone it’s most likely
the literal work phone required of them to use in flight. Hopes this clears
things up.
17. T- Reply
January 28, 2024 at 2:44 pm
CONFUSION. How can one tell that the FA is on their personal phone given
that they use them for work purposes? I am assuming that United Airlines
has had a good amount of complaints about this. Public perception may very
well be inaccurate, unless the FA is on an Android phone.
18. Glenn Pickard Reply
January 30, 2024 at 10:48 am
Agree completely
. No cellphones, attn only in the cabin on pax.
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