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MORE OPTIONSAGREE in this thread in this sub-forum in the entire site Advanced Search Cancel Login / Join * What's New * Forum Listing * Marketplace * Showcase * Gallery * Advanced Search * Members * FAQ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Dark Mode * Light Mode Menu Log in -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sign up -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Home * Forums * Brand Specific Tech * Toyota - Truck and 4Runner JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. MECHANICAL FUEL INJECTION FOR YOU TOY!!! 2477 Views 20 Replies 14 Participants Last post by SeaBass44, Nov 12, 2007 Jump to Latest J JoeDirt82 Discussion starter · Sep 22, 2007 (Edited) * Add to quote * Share Only show this user Mechanical Fuel Injection for your Toy!!! ONLY $399.95 http://www.zuksoffroad.net/toyota_engine.htm I wish I would have bought this instead of my Webber!!!!! more info http://www.zuksoffroad.net/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=be83db9ea3996e84ae87ca8b505d54d6&topic=4.0 See less See more 1 Reply Save Like Powered By 10 LA-Barstow to Vegas 2022 Share Next Stay 1 - 20 of 21 Posts * 1 * 2 Next 1 of 2 GO TO PAGE Go P Pavement Pounder83 · #2 · Sep 22, 2007 * Add to quote * Share Only show this user looks cool but where is the yellow star Drew Reynolds ECV 7-11 1991 Toyota Ex Cab All Stock 1993 Xr650L http://www.startprepared.com/forums/ Isautia[88:54] Delta World, Town: PBB Broski Reply Save Like N NOODLES · #3 · Sep 22, 2007 * Add to quote * Share Only show this user > Pavement Pounder83 said: > looks cool but where is the yellow star > Click to expand... this guy is in oregon, the business is in az. Reply Save Like J JoeDirt82 Discussion starter · #4 · Sep 22, 2007 * Add to quote * Share Only show this user No im not selling, just thought it was cool. Reply Save Like drsmash · #5 · Sep 22, 2007 * Add to quote * Share Only show this user wonder how easy it is to tune? 79 toy shortbed simple build http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/toyota-truck-4runner/1182217-finally-new-rig.html and if your stuck in Carson City and need some welding help give me a call 775-884-4947 http://www.DrSmash.com Reply Save Like J JoeDirt82 Discussion starter · #6 · Sep 22, 2007 (Edited) * Add to quote * Share Only show this user I see it in ORE (off-road enthusiast) magazine they had a writeup on it. They say it can be installed in 4-5 hours. Reply Save Like 4runner · #7 · Sep 22, 2007 * Add to quote * Share Only show this user LIKE FIVE MINUTES AGO? lol IF MECHICANICAL IS SO GOOD, WHY DOES EVERYONE USE ELECTRONIC THESE DAYS? 4.3runner Reply Save Like D doug84toy · #8 · Sep 22, 2007 * Add to quote * Share Only show this user a guy at my tech school had it on his vw fox and he was always tuning that thing on the dyno, i dont think he even got it tuned in right. it would either run good on the top end or bottom end never both Reply Save Like B bkubisht · #9 · Sep 22, 2007 * Add to quote * Share Only show this user Seems like this would help with steep angles and the better fuel atomization would make better power on less gas. That's the only improvement I'd see over the carbs. But I doubt the mixture control is improved and spark timing isn't optimized. That flexible fuel delivery is sexy though. I'd take that and a modified 20R intake, and go megasquirt. 3rz swapped '85 4runner Reply Save Like B bkubisht · #10 · Sep 22, 2007 * Add to quote * Share Only show this user On second thought, the fuel delivery mechanism is mechanical so maybe it can't be activated via electronic pulse. 3rz swapped '85 4runner Reply Save Like dwkremer · #11 · Sep 22, 2007 * Add to quote * Share Only show this user The sammy guys love the system from this guy on their suzuki 1.3's Gathering parts 2 buggies: tons, 4Ds, 4WS. 95 Sammy; perfect (restored) Yj's (SPUA) 2.0 Reply Save Like supervert · #12 · Sep 22, 2007 * Add to quote * Share Only show this user have any of you ever worked on that kind of system? it works good when it working but if you have a prob it can be hard to diagnose. its easy to tweek but hard to fine tune. my rabbit had it, specs were shaved head solid lifter big cam dual dump manifold 2.5" exhaust mk2 throttle body high volume fuel pump audi injectors ran low 14's the prob that i had was, it run great all the time except when i was at cruising speed it had a slight mis you can get that system from pnp from a lot of cars audi vw mercedes volvo posche bmw See less See more Reply Save Like toyjoeta · #13 · Sep 22, 2007 * Add to quote * Share Only show this user > 4runner said: > LIKE FIVE MINUTES AGO? > > > lol > > > > > IF MECHICANICAL IS SO GOOD, WHY DOES EVERYONE USE ELECTRONIC THESE DAYS? > Click to expand... I don't think it's a matter of being better than EFI, but being a cheaper means of geting injected. I learned about it in school, thought the idea was neat, but was extremely complicated. Late Joe Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. Reply Save Like Roc Doc · #14 · Sep 22, 2007 * Add to quote * Share Only show this user Porsche used a mechanical FI system in it's street and some race cars until 1973. When properly tuned the throttle response is like nothing else, but even under the best conditions, they used a lot of fuel, and there's no way in hell you could get that to pass any kind of smog requirements, FWIW. > Originally Posted by Mustard Dog > Me and my co driver were running across the Lakebed on our way to pre run when > we saw :gary: walking his dog. > > We didn't stop to say hi cause he's a fucking douchebag. > Click to expand... Reply Save Like Grim Reaper · #15 · Sep 22, 2007 * Add to quote * Share Only show this user > Roc Doc said: > Porsche used a mechanical FI system in it's street and some race cars until > 1973. When properly tuned the throttle response is like nothing else, but even > under the best conditions, they used a lot of fuel, and there's no way in hell > you could get that to pass any kind of smog requirements, FWIW. > Click to expand... Do I need to dig out all my passed smog tests on my 83 GTI and my Moms 87 Jetta? Passes just fine. VW ran it into the 90's. Still hate that system. The System on the 22RE is Bosch L-Jetronic (it is under license) and nearly identical to the FI used on a lot of Porsche's and VW's in the mid 70's Hell if you want to easily retrofit some FI get some Bosch D-Tronic. Its multi point. It runs a MAP sensor. It could easily be adapted to a 22RE intake plenum bu just T-ing in the MAP sensor off the Vac line to the Brake booster Should be able to use the stock 22RE ignitior to send a signal to the computer. No AFM to deal with. It doesn't do timing advance so you might have to make a hybrid distributor out of a Carb distributor. See less See more Did you expect to find something deep and meaningful here? "He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." -- Winston Churchill Reply Save Like Roc Doc · #16 · Sep 22, 2007 * Add to quote * Share Only show this user > Grim Reaper said: > Do I need to dig out all my passed smog tests on my 83 GTI and my Moms 87 > Jetta? > Passes just fine. VW ran it into the 90's. Still hate that system. > Click to expand... Those engines were designed for it. Come on now you know that camshaft profile, intake design, and combustion chamber all play into the smog results. I understand the Suziki guys wanting cheap FI, but I doubt they're getting smog legal results, adding it on to a completely different engine. And your last statement is why the Porsche guys that can properly tune a mechanical system, get the big bucks. > Originally Posted by Mustard Dog > Me and my co driver were running across the Lakebed on our way to pre run when > we saw :gary: walking his dog. > > We didn't stop to say hi cause he's a fucking douchebag. > Click to expand... Reply Save Like Grim Reaper · #17 · Sep 22, 2007 (Edited) * Add to quote * Share Only show this user > Roc Doc said: > And your last statement is why the Porsche guys that can properly tune a > mechanical system, get the big bucks. > Click to expand... No they get the big bucks because it says Porsche and Porsche owners seem to think you have to pay ungodly prices for anything done on their car when in reality a Good VW bus mechanic is just as talented at half the price because other then the number of cylinders and a in some cases a turbo it is damn near the same thing. Still hate that damn KE-Jetronic. It SUCKS to work on. I learned how to work on cars on a 72 Porsche 914 and a 73 VW 412 with D-Jetronic. Then graduated to a 82 Vanagon with "L" then the KE (Mechanical) in my 83 GTI. That damn KE sucked ass and plagued with electrical issues mostly from underspecified wringing and plugs. My Mom's Jetta we finale just had to pay a guy to drive the car for a week and swap parts till the problem went away. I could not find the problem and it was down to throwing money at it. Found a local guy that had a good rep and plenty of used parts to jam in it to try to make the problem go away. Turned out to be a burned up fuse box causing intermittent power problems to the pump. Just a shitty design and Bosch designed the whole electrical system in those cars so it was Bosch's doing that it was under specked:shaking: When I talked to Ted when building my 22 He said he could not find an appreciable cam profile difference between a Carb and FI cam in the 22R's. That's why he doesn't sell a different cam for each. The cam profile might be more of a issue on a MAP sensor driven FI but on a Airflow metered FI it may not matter in the least. It will flow what it can flow regardless of intake vacuum. See less See more Did you expect to find something deep and meaningful here? "He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." -- Winston Churchill Reply Save Like arloey · #18 · Nov 12, 2007 * Add to quote * Share Only show this user i would just like to know how well it works. does anyone use this? does it work well at angles? does it work well cold? does it save any gas? does it add any power? i have a 75 pickup and would love some FI for cheap. See less See more Tacoma Build thread http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=658167 97 D-cab Tacoma D44 etone electric front locker usa USA Alloy marlin 2.28 dule cases trd rear locker 35" toyo open country. Reply Save Like SeaBass44 · #19 · Nov 12, 2007 * Add to quote * Share Only show this user just swap re stuff on, rollie did it for what $150 in 1 day 12voltguy info@12voltguy.com--davezoffroadperformance.com :evil: # 530.532.4529:evil: TTC 2010 1989 BRONCO :evil:-Awesome web development for your business. www.mudnworks.com mud@mudnworks.com Pat's W I D E TOYOTA Front Axle Reply Save Like arloey · #20 · Nov 12, 2007 (Edited) * Add to quote * Share Only show this user does re stuff work on a pre smog 20r? the add for $400 does not include parts you would need to get off a vw or audi. the add asks for more $ to have these parts included. Tacoma Build thread http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=658167 97 D-cab Tacoma D44 etone electric front locker usa USA Alloy marlin 2.28 dule cases trd rear locker 35" toyo open country. 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