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<td><a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=16&players=0">Braves</a></td>
<td>104</td>
<td>58</td>
<td>0.0</td>
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<td><a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=26&players=0">Phillies</a></td>
<td>90</td>
<td>72</td>
<td>14.0</td>
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<td>84</td>
<td>78</td>
<td>20.0</td>
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<td><a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=25&players=0">Mets</a></td>
<td>75</td>
<td>87</td>
<td>29.0</td>
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<td><a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=24&players=0">Nationals</a></td>
<td>71</td>
<td>91</td>
<td>33.0</td>
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<td>92</td>
<td>70</td>
<td>0.0</td>
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<td><a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=17&players=0">Cubs</a></td>
<td>83</td>
<td>79</td>
<td>9.0</td>
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<td><a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=18&players=0">Reds</a></td>
<td>82</td>
<td>80</td>
<td>10.0</td>
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<td><a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=27&players=0">Pirates</a></td>
<td>76</td>
<td>86</td>
<td>16.0</td>
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<td><a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=28&players=0">Cardinals</a></td>
<td>71</td>
<td>91</td>
<td>21.0</td>
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<td>100</td>
<td>62</td>
<td>0.0</td>
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<td><a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=15&players=0">D-backs</a></td>
<td>84</td>
<td>78</td>
<td>16.0</td>
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<td><a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=29&players=0">Padres</a></td>
<td>82</td>
<td>80</td>
<td>18.0</td>
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<td><a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=30&players=0">Giants</a></td>
<td>79</td>
<td>83</td>
<td>21.0</td>
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<td><a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=&ind=0&team=19&players=0">Rockies</a></td>
<td>59</td>
<td>103</td>
<td>41.0</td>
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<div class="menu-sub-header">Major League Leaders</div>
<div class="menu-sub-header">Batting:<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2023">2023</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2022&month=0&season1=2022&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2022">2022</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2021&month=0&season1=2021&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2021">2021</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2020&month=0&season1=2020&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2020">2020</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2019&month=0&season1=2019&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2019">2019</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=1871&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&players=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - Career">Career</a>
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<div class="menu-sub-header">Pitching:<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2023">2023</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2022&month=0&season1=2022&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2022">2022</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2021&month=0&season1=2021&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2021">2021</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2020&month=0&season1=2020&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2020">2020</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2019&month=0&season1=2019&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2019">2019</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=1871&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&players=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - Career">Career</a>
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<div class="menu-sub-header">Fielding:<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=y&type=0&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2023">2023</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=y&type=0&season=2022&month=0&season1=2022&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2022">2022</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=y&type=0&season=2021&month=0&season1=2021&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2021">2021</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=y&type=0&season=2020&month=0&season1=2020&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2020">2020</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=y&type=0&season=2019&month=0&season1=2019&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2019">2019</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=y&type=0&season=2023&month=0&season1=1871&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&players=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - Career">Career</a>
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<div class="menu-sub-link"><a href="//www.fangraphs.com/leaders/splits-leaderboards">Splits Leaderboards</a></div>
<div class="menu-sub-link"><a href="//www.fangraphs.com/leaders/season-stat-grid">Season Stat Grid</a></div>
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<div class="menu-sub-header">Postseason Leaders</div>
<div class="menu-sub-header">Batting:<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&postseason=Y" aria-label="Postseason Leaderboards - 2023">2023</a>
<!-- -->(<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&postseason=W" aria-label="Postseason Leaderboards - 2023 WS">WS</a>)<!-- -->,<!-- -->
<!-- -->(<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&postseason=L" aria-label="Postseason Leaderboards - 2023 LCS">LCS</a>)<!-- -->,<!-- -->
<!-- -->(<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&postseason=D" aria-label="Postseason Leaderboards - 2023 LDS">LDS</a>)<!-- -->
<!-- -->(<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&postseason=F" aria-label="Postseason Leaderboards - 2023 WCS">WCS</a>)<!-- -->,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=1871&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&players=0&postseason=Y" aria-label="Postseason Leaderboards - Career">Career</a>
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<div class="menu-sub-header">Pitching:<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&postseason=Y" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2023">2023</a>
<!-- -->(<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&postseason=W" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2023">WS</a>)<!-- -->
<!-- -->(<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&postseason=L" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2023">LCS</a>)<!-- -->
<!-- -->(<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&postseason=D" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2023">LDS</a>)<!-- -->
<!-- -->(<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&postseason=F" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2023">WCS</a>)<!-- -->,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=1871&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&players=0&postseason=Y" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - Career">Career</a>
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<div class="menu-sub-header">KBO Leaders<br><a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/international">Batting</a>,<!-- --> <a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/international?&stats=pit">Pitching</a></div>
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<div class="menu-sub-header">Minor League Leaders</div>AAA: <a href="//www.fangraphs.com/leaders/minor-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=2&qual=y&type=0&season=2023">International League</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="//www.fangraphs.com/leaders/minor-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=4&qual=y&type=0&season=2023">Pacific Coast League</a><br>AA:
<a href="//www.fangraphs.com/leaders/minor-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=5&qual=y&type=0&season=2023">Eastern League</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="//www.fangraphs.com/leaders/minor-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=6&qual=y&type=0&season=2023">Southern League</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="//www.fangraphs.com/leaders/minor-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=7&qual=y&type=0&season=2023">Texas League</a><br>A+:
<a href="//www.fangraphs.com/leaders/minor-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=11&qual=y&type=0&season=2023">Midwest League</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="//www.fangraphs.com/leaders/minor-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=14&qual=y&type=0&season=2023">South Atlantic League</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="//www.fangraphs.com/leaders/minor-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=13&qual=y&type=0&season=2023">Northwest League</a><br>A:
<a href="//www.fangraphs.com/leaders/minor-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=8&qual=y&type=0&season=2023">California League</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="//www.fangraphs.com/leaders/minor-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=9&qual=y&type=0&season=2023">Carolina League</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="//www.fangraphs.com/leaders/minor-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=10&qual=y&type=0&season=2023">Florida State League</a><br>CPX:
<a href="//www.fangraphs.com/leaders/minor-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=16&qual=y&type=0&season=2022">Arizona</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="//www.fangraphs.com/leaders/minor-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=17&qual=y&type=0&season=2022">Florida</a><br>R:
<a href="//www.fangraphs.com/leaders/minor-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=30&qual=y&type=0&season=2022">Dominican Summer League</a>
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<div class="menu-sub-header">WAR Tools</div>
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/war" target="_top" aria-label="Combined Leaderboards">Combined WAR Leaderboards</a><br><a href="//www.fangraphs.com/graphsw.aspx">WAR Graphs</a>
<div class="menu-sub-header">WPA Tools</div><a href="//www.fangraphs.com/tools/wpa-inquirer">WPA Inquirer</a><br>
<div class="menu-sub-header">Rookie Leaders</div>
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=2" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - Batters 2023">Batters 2023</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=2" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - Pitchers 2023">Pitchers 2023</a>
<div class="menu-sub-header">Splits Leaders</div>Batters:
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=1&season=2023&month=13&season1=2023&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2023 vs L">vs L</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=1&season=2023&month=14&season1=2023&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2023 vs R">vs R</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=1&season=2023&month=15&season1=2023&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2023 Home">Home</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=1&season=2023&month=16&season1=2023&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2023 Away">Away</a><br>Pitchers:
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=1&season=2023&month=13&season1=2023&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2023 vs L">vs L</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=1&season=2023&month=14&season1=2023&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2023 vs R">vs R</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=1&season=2023&month=15&season1=2023&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2023 Home">Home</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=1&season=2023&month=16&season1=2023&ind=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2023 Away">Away</a>
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<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=&age=&filter=&players=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2023">2023</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2022&month=0&season1=2022&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=&age=&filter=&players=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2022">2022</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2021&month=0&season1=2021&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=&age=&filter=&players=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2021">2021</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2020&month=0&season1=2020&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=&age=&filter=&players=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2020">2020</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2019&month=0&season1=2019&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=&age=&filter=&players=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2019">2019</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2018&month=0&season1=2018&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=&age=&filter=&players=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2018">2018</a>...
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<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2023&month=0&season1=2023&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2023">2023</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2022&month=0&season1=2022&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2022">2022</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2021&month=0&season1=2021&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2021">2021</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2020&month=0&season1=2020&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2020">2020</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2019&month=0&season1=2019&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2019">2019</a>,<!-- -->
<a href="https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2018&month=0&season1=2018&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0" aria-label="Major League Leaderboards - 2018">2018</a>...
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FIVE QUESTIONS: MONTREAL EXPOS
by Joe Dimino
April 1, 2004
I’m one of those rare Yankee/Expo fans – have been since the days of Andre
Dawson, Tim Raines, Willie Randolph and Dave Righetti. It helps me to see both
sides of the economic spectrum, kind of like having a doctor and a mechanic as
siblings… both can be great people and you love them just because you’re
related, of course. From an economic perspective, you can use them for different
things, which is great! The doctor can take you to his beach house. The mechanic
will fix your car just because it’s fun — it’s not as flashy as the beach house,
but it can be just as important: you need to get to the beach house before you
can enjoy it…
Anyway, I think the Expos were for real last year, and they were a fun team to
watch. During a regular season in which the drama associated with the Bombers
making the post-season was negligible, the Expos provided me with a real, live
pennant chase. Well, it was a wild card chase, but it’s the same damn thing when
it’s your squad involved — especially when you have friends that are Phillies
fans. Too bad we both (and the Yanks!) lost to the evil incarnate and a team
without any fans.
The ‘Spos were actually better than their surprising 83-79 record. I don’t know
why it was surprising when they were 83-79 the year before too — all they lost
of significance was Bartolo Colon — but it was surprising. How can I say that
they were better than their record when their Pythagorean record was 80-82?
Don’t worry, we’ll get to that. This year their over-under is 73 wins, which is
laughable. Sure they lost 10 wins with the migration of 2/3 of the Killer V’s,
but they replaced some of them with Nick Johnson and Juan Rivera. Tony Armas Jr.
should be back too, and Brad Wilkerson will be a year better. Even though they
were 3 games ahead of their Pythagorean pace, I don’t see why the team can’t
repeat their record, if not improve it. Actually, I see one reason why…
1) Were there any obvious signs of wear and tear from playing in Puerto Rico in
the Expos record?
After starting the season with 9 games on the road (bouncing from Atlanta to New
York to Chicago), the Expos went “home” to Puerto Rico from April 11-20 without
even getting an off day. They swept the Mets (4 games) and went 6-4 overall,
getting swept by Atlanta and taking 2 of 3 from Cincinnati. Then they went home
for real, and after a night off, they went 4-2 vs. the Diamondbacks and Astros.
The next trip south was June 3-8 — this time following a trip to Miami and then
Philadelphia. You’d think MLB could have flipped those series, instead of making
them fly Montreal-Miami-Philadelphia-San Juan while playing 7 games in 7 days,
including two double-headers. They did get a day off before Anaheim came in and
pasted them 15-4 and 11-2. The Expos went 1-8 during this run, dropping their
record from 32-18 to 33-26.
After beating Anaheim in 14 innings in the finale of that series, the Expos
swept Texas. They were then given an off-day — and a flight from San Juan to
Seattle for a much-needed AL West Coast swing (actually, the trip was
Seattle-Oakland–Pittsburgh). They won the first two before dropping 6 in a row,
finally taking the last game of the Pittsburgh series. At that point, without a
day off, the ‘Spos flew to Montreal for a 6-game homestand.
The trip turned out to be Montreal-Miami-Philadelphia-San
Juan-Seattle-Oakland-Pittsburgh-Montreal over 3 1/2 weeks. They went 8-14 on the
trip — obviously, they just weren’t a good road team.
The final trip to San Juan was September 5-11, once again following a
Montreal-Miami-Philadelphia swing. But that’s not the whole of it. The Expos
went from Montreal to Los Angeles (without an off-day) August 19, and then
hopped down to San Diego. From there they flew home for four games with the
Phillies, and then they went to Miami and Philadelphia (and lost 6 straight)
before finally getting an off day that they used to head back to San Juan.
There, they split 6 games with the Marlins and Cubs. At that point the Expos
finally returned to Montreal. Over these 3 1/2 weeks, they played 4 games in
Montreal with just two days off (one in the middle of the San Juan stretch), and
predictably went 9-13.
The problem with the scheduling is that the Expos got very few true off-days
last year — off days where they didn’t have to travel. These two stretches saw
the Expos go 17-27 (.386); over the rest of the season they were 66-52 (.559). I
can’t help but conclude that this awful scheduling had a serious negative impact
on their play.
I don’t really know what Frank Robinson can do about it… perhaps he could make
sure to rest his guys more during these stints to offset the wear and tear. This
is especially important for the hitters — the pitchers aren’t playing every day
anyway. Vlad Guerrero, Jose Vidro, Wilkerson, Brian Schneider and Wil Cordero
all saw their OPS+ drop significantly last season. Only Orlando Cabrera had a
better year with the stick in 2003 than in 2002 (after adjusting for the change
in parks). Endy Chavez and Jamey Carroll are simply awful, which makes it tough
to decipher if their declines were fatigue-related or simple Doug Flynn-level
suckitude-related…
This also could be impacting Montreal’s park factor — and making their pitchers
look better than their ERA+ would indicate. If road fatigue is hurting the
hitters, they’re going to hit better at home and it will look like the offensive
environment is better than it really is. Expos hitters scored 436 runs at home
last year and just 275 on the road — a 59% increase — but their pitchers only
allowed 21% more runs at home. There may be something to this. Hiram Bithorn
Stadium is a great home run park, though it’s not good for much else because the
small outfield is easy to cover. But the overall environment probably wasn’t as
good as it looks based on the park factors.
The traveling issues won’t be any better this year. Sure, they start in Miami
and then hop down to San Juan for 6 games, which isn’t bad. Then it’s off to
Philadelphia and New York. From there they head home for 3 games and then fly
(without an off day) to San Diego and jump to LA. During this entire stretch
they get exactly one off day — in the middle of the 6 games in San Juan.
The next stint in San Juan follows a trip from Montreal to Milwaukee to Phoenix.
At that point, it’s 6 games in San Juan, then they head back to Montreal
(without an off-day) and play 6 more at home before heading on a 14 day trip
through Atlanta-Cincinninati-Kansas City-Seattle. All of those frequent flyer
miles earn them a 9-game homestand.
The final San Juan swing isn’t too bad. After the big homestand, they take their
1993 World Series tour through Toronto and Philadelphia before playing the final
10 games before the All-Star break in Puerto Rico. Of course, they play 20 games
in a row and head to Atlanta, Pittsburgh and New York immediately following the
break, but they’ll take what they can get — 24 of their first 98 games in
Montreal and 3 trips into the Mountain or Pacific time zones.
At least this year, the entire second half will be San Juan-free — if the team
manages to survive the rugged first half schedule, the hometown fans could see
exciting baseball down the stretch for the first time in awhile. Last year they
played just 6 games in Montreal in September, and by the time those game rolled
around the Expos were basically out of it.
A Hardball Times Update
by RJ McDaniel
Goodbye for now.
2) Did Livan Hernandez deserve the 2003 Cy Young Award? Can he do it again?
Livan was more valuable than Eric Gagne, but so were at least 5 or 6 other
starters. Among them, it was close. I voted Hernandez 2nd last year, behind Mark
Prior. But if I had to do it over again, I would probably vote for Livan,
although it’s tough tell how distorted the park factor is. Figuring park factors
normally, Montreal played as the best hitters environment in baseball last year,
even better than Coors Field. This makes Hernandez’ 3.20 ERA quite impressive
(an average pitcher in that context would have a 4.97 ERA).
Hernandez also led the league in the innings pitched with 233 — 22 more than
anyone ahead of him in ERA+ (Prior was the closest with 211 IP). I believe
either Hernandez or the recently-departed Javier Vazquez (3.24 ERA, 231 IP) was
the most valuable pitcher in the NL last year.
As to whether or not he can do it again, normally I would say, “I doubt it.”
However, Livan’s walk rate was down considerably, and his strikeouts
skyrocketed. He wasn’t what you’d call “hit-lucky” either — his average allowed
on balls in play was only slightly lower than in 2002. Hernandez simply had
great command; he just pitched great in 2003. He’s flashed some of this
greatness before. In both 1997 and 2000 he sustained it. For some reason, I
think of him as being 35 years old or something, but he’s listed at just 29. If
that figure is anywhere close to accurate, Livan is a lot younger than most
people think.
Assuming he stays healthy (a big risk) I think he’s turned the corner and should
be pretty effective, although he likely won’t be as good as he was in 2003. It
appears the Expos do have a solid rotation anchor who they can count on for 33
starts and 220-230 innings and ERA+ between 115 and 145, which is more than a
lot of teams can say they have.
3) What will the changes bring? Did les Expos come out ahead with their
off-season moves?
Losing Guerrero and Vazquez is devastating. But adding Johnson, Rivera, and Carl
Everett should help to offset it. The Yankee fan in me has absolutely fallen in
love with Johnson over the last few years. Johnson hit .422/.472 last year — he
is no longer a prospect; he’s a player. Per plate appearance Johnson nearly
matched Vlad in Win Shares (14/406, 18/467) and Johnson spent 1/3 of his time as
a DH, limiting his defensive value. He also hit .389/.437 (22% of his total AB)
vs. lefties, showing that he’s not just a platoon player.
If healthy, Johnson is just behind Albert Pujols, Todd Helton and Jim Thome
among NL first-sackers. He’s only 25, and likely to be the best non-Pujols 1B in
the NL within a few years — if he stays in the lineup. It’s hard to believe, but
if Johnson can stay healthy (a major if, which is why I’ve mentioned it in each
of the last 3 sentences), you can almost call the Guerrero/Johnson “swap” a wash
— with Guerrero’s back problems, it’s at least within the margin of error.
Johnson for Vazquez or Guerrero is reasonable, especially when you consider the
salary implications. And while Carl Everett and Rivera don’t offset the loss of
the other, they aren’t Doug Flynn either. (My thesaurus lists Flynn as a synonym
for “chopped liver” so I went with it.) Everett posted a 124 OPS+ last year, but
that was coming off two terrible years, and he’ll be 33 in June. Omar Minaya has
no idea which Everett he’ll be getting. Your guess is as good as mine, but I’d
imagine it’s closer the 2001-02 version.
Rivera is a player that I like a lot; I’m glad he’ll finally get a chance to
play. His major league numbers aren’t terrible — .302/.427 (93 OPS+) isn’t
great, but it’s not like he has been overmatched, and it’s just 280 PA. He’s
only struck out 37 times, so we know he can make contact. He hit .374/.461 in
Columbus. Baseball Primer’s Dan Syzmborski’s ZiPS projections show Rivera
hitting .310/.358/.488 for Montreal this year, which would be great for the
Expos. Defensively, he’ll be more than adequate in right field.
Overall, I’d say the Expos have about a one in three chance of winning the
combined swaps outright, both short- and long-term. Basically, an injury to
Guerrero and/or Vazquez would accomplish this. They might have a 1/3 shot at
breaking even, too. If Vazquez turns out to be a Jimmy Key and not a Whitey Ford
(see below), Johnson becomes one of the best 1B in baseball, and Rivera has a
productive career, I’d call the deals (including the loss of Guerrero) even. But
they also have a chance of getting crushed in the deals — if Vlad continues to
be Vlad, Vazquez becomes Pedro or Ford, and Rivera flames out. Sean Forman has
always said that we like to think of trades as 90/10 in terms of the odds of a
team winning, but really, it’s more like 60/40 most of the time. I have to agree
with Sean — this series of moves isn’t nearly as bad for the Expos as most
think. If they keep Vidro, I think the Expos will be strong contenders for a
playoff spot. In all likelihood, the moves cost the Expos 2-3 wins this year —
wins that can be made up elsewhere. Even if they move Vidro (which is likely),
they can be better off in the long run if things break right. For a team in
their position, you can’t ask for much else.
Now if we could just get back Grady Sizemore, Brandon Phillips and Cliff Lee —
all of which were exchanged for 17 Bartolo Colon starts in a hopeless pennant
quest. Sigh.
4) How valuable was the commodity the Expos gave up in Javier Vazquez?
Vazquez was arguably the best pitcher in the National League last year, and he
was just 26. His upside is Pedro Martinez, and in context their age 26 seasons
are very similar.
ERA+ SO BB IP HR
Pedro 160 251 67 234 26
Vazquez 153 241 57 231 28
I realize Pedro won the Cy Young Award in his age 25 season, and Vazquez had an
ERA+ of 106. I’m not saying he’ll end up as Pedro Martinez, but it’s not
impossible, and that’s saying something. I used Win Shares to find pitchers with
a similar age 24-26 progression to Vazquez. I removed pitchers from the list who
didn’t have a similar “up-down-up” ERA+, and who weren’t of the same quality
Vazquez (the old-time pitchers who had similar WS but were pitching far fewer
innings than their peers). The resulting comparables:
Bob Rush, 1950-52
Whitey Ford, 1953-55
Ernie Broglio, 1960-62
Juan Pizzaro, 1961-63
Jimmy Key, 1985-87
Brad Radke, 1999-97
Their ERA+ from age 24-26 was a composite 129-111-146; Vazquez’s numbers were
135-106-153. We all know about Ernie Broglio — I suppose this trade does have
some possibility of being as great for the Expos as Brock/Broglio was for the
Cards. Broglio had fired off ERA+ of 149, 107 and 142 and followed it up at age
27 with an 18-8, 119 ERA+ campaign. He was traded for Brock the following June.
Broglio fell apart the next year, and he was out of baseball in 3 years (after
going 10-24 for the Cubs).
Bob Rush was the Brad Radke of the 1950s — a pitcher who was pretty good early,
but never progressed, though he still had a decent career. He and Radke even
have the same initials… Juan Pizzaro had one more great year left in him and
then he fell apart. Obviously, Key and Ford went on to have excellent careers.
The other interesting thing is that every one of the six had some major injury
problem that led to them pitching less than 150 innings in at least one season
sometime in the age 27-29 range. Of course, it’s likely that any list of
pitchers will show a great percentage of them suffering injuries. Still, it’s a
point in favor of the trade (from an actual baseball standpoint!) looking at the
Expo perspective — dump him for a less-risky alternative while his trade value
is high.
5) We all know he’s likely to be traded, with LA, Boston, and the Yankees likely
destinations. Who should the Expos target as compensation for Jose Vidro? What
should they be looking for?
Obviously, the Expos should sign Vidro medium-term. He’s 29 and he’s one of the
a handful of baseball’s best second basemen. But it’s not the end of the world
if they can get a decent return for him. He’ll be on the wrong side of 30 by
September, and he’s missed an average of 19 games a year over the last five
years. Second-basemen do not tend to age well.
If they are dealing with the Yankees, they should ask for catcher Dioner Navarro
and pitcher Jorge DePaula. I think DePaula is major league-ready, and Navarro
posted great numbers in A-ball (.364/.467) and AA (.388/.471) last year —
numbers that are amazing for a 19-year old catcher. For perspective, in 2002 —
in A-ball — Joe Mauer hit .393/.392, also as a 19-year old.
To be honest, I’d trade Vidro for Navarro and DePaula right now, wouldn’t even
talk to anyone else, and I’d consider it a relatively good long-term baseball
move on it’s own (though it would hurt them this season), but a great one
considering that Vidro won’t be back next year anyway. The Yankees are desperate
for a 2B, so I don’t see how they could pass this one up. As a fan of both
teams, I see it as the type of deal you’d make if it were a fantasy league and
you owned both teams or something — a classic win-win.
If the Yankees get tough, it makes sense to start talking to the Red Sox, even
if it’s for nothing other than driving up the price. I’d ask for Kelly Shoppach
and Hanley Ramirez. Shoppach, who turns 24 this month, is a solid catching
prospect — he hit .353/.488 at AA last year. Ramirez’s status slipped a little
last year, but he still held his own (.327/.403) in the Sally League as a
20-year old SS and is still a top prospect.
These are the types of deals the Expos should be looking for an A prospect and a
B prospect, or at least two high B prospects preferably ones that play key
defensive positions. Vidro is a very valuable commodity, even moreso when you
consider the top two teams in the game – bitter rivals to boot – have pretty big
holes at 2B.
The NL is a crapshoot. The Expos should be right in the thick of it. Robinson
has done a great job resurrecting teams from the dead. See the 1982 Giants, the
1989 Orioles and the 2002-03 Expos. I’ll be shocked if this team isn’t
competitive (at least .500) in 2004 – and if it wasn’t for the first half
schedule, I’d see them as a borderline playoff team.
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