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BIDEN DOCUMENTS HEARING: SPECIAL COUNSEL DEFENDS NOT CHARGING PRESIDENT, BUT
SAYS HE WAS NOT EXONERATED

Ex-special counsel Robert Hur testified before the House Judiciary Committee.

ByLucien Bruggeman,Alexander Mallin,Will Steakin, andKatherine Faulders
Last Updated: March 12, 2024, 8:15 PM
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Robert Hur, who as special counsel conducted the yearlong probe into President
Joe Biden's handling of classified documents that ultimately absolved the
president of legal culpability, faced questions Tuesday from members of the
House Judiciary Committee.

MORE: Transcript from documents probe contradicts Biden's account of exchange
with Hur over son's death

Hur, who was previously nominated by then-President Donald Trump as U.S.
attorney for the District of Maryland, wrote in his 388-page report published
last month that he would not recommend charges against President Biden despite
uncovering evidence that Biden "willfully retained" classified materials.

In the course of explaining his rationale for that conclusion, Hur said that a
potential jury would likely find Biden to be a "sympathetic, well-meaning,
elderly man with a poor memory."


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 * 'I did not exonerate him,' Hur says of Biden
 * Hur says Biden's ghostwriter claim is 'inconsistent' with findings
 * Under questioning, Hur stands by not charging Biden
 * Hur defends his characterization of Biden's memory
 * Transcript contradicts Biden's account of exchange over son's death

Here's how the news is developing.


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Mar 12, 8:15 PM


HEARING ENDS AFTER NEARLY FIVE HOURS OF TESTIMONY

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Committee Chairman Jim Jordan pounded his gavel shortly before 3 p.m. ET,
signaling an end to Robert Hur's testimony after nearly five hours at the
witness table.

Hur departed the hearing room after withstanding pointed attacks from across the
political spectrum: Democrats accused him of including gratuitous language about
Biden's mental acuity, while Republicans slammed his decision not to bring
criminal charges.

Though Hur at times grew animated as he defended his work, he remained measured
and disciplined throughout his testimony.

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Mar 12, 7:10 PM


HUR WON'T SAY IF CONGRESS SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO RECORDINGS

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Former special counsel Robert Hur would not specifically weigh in on whether or
not Congress should have access to audio recordings related to his report when
pressed by Republican committee Chairman Jim Jordan.

Jordan directly asked Hur: "Is there any reason why you can see why the American
people and their representatives in United States Congress should not have
access to those tapes?"

But Hur would not say either way, and instead responded by saying that his
report did take into account the audio recordings. It was unclear which
recordings Hur was referencing; given the way Jordan asked the question, it
could have been regarding audio of Biden's interview with Hur or audio of
Biden's conversations with his ghostwriter.

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"Chairman, what I can tell you is that my assessment that went into my
conclusions that I described, my report was based not solely on the transcript,
it was based on all of the evidence, including the audio recordings," Hur said.

Jordan then asked Hur again, saying if he thought the audio recordings were
"valuable evidence" for his report then "shouldn't the United States Congress
have access to that same information?"

"It is not for me to weigh into what information Congress should or should not
have" replied Hur, while reiterating that he believed "the audio recordings were
part of the evidence, of course, that I considered in coming to my conclusions."

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Mar 12, 5:40 PM


'I DID NOT EXONERATE HIM,' HUR SAYS OF BIDEN

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In a notable exchange, Hur took issue with Democrats' characterization that his
report cleared President Biden of criminal wrongdoing, testifying that he "did
not exonerate him."

Rep. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., questioning Hur about his report, stated that the
"lengthy, expensive and independent investigation resulted in a complete
exoneration of President Joe Biden."

Hur, looking to correct Jayapal's characterization, responded by saying, "I need
to go back and make sure that I take note of a word that you use: Exoneration,"
he said. "That is not a word I used in the report and not part of my task--"

Jayapal then jumped in and began speaking over Hur, as she tried to argue that
Hur's report indeed did "exonerate" Biden.

But Hur again pushed back, quickly replying: "I did not exonerate him, that word
does not appear in the report."

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Mar 12, 5:29 PM


HUR SAYS BIDEN'S GHOSTWRITER CLAIM IS 'INCONSISTENT' WITH FINDINGS

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Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., read an excerpt from the press conference that
President Biden convened the night Hur's report was made public -- highlighting
Biden's claim that he "did not share classified information" with his
ghostwriter.

"That's not true, is it, Mr. Hur?" Gaetz asked.

"That is inconsistent with the findings based on the evidence in my report," Hur
said.

When Gaetz called it a lie, "as regular people would say," Hur laughed.

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Mar 12, 4:44 PM


HUR TESTIFIES BIDEN NEVER SAID DOCUMENTS WERE 'HIS'

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Special counsel Robert Hur said that President Biden did not say that he
believed any documents -- other than his own handwritten notes -- were his
personal property, in contrast to former President Trump who has claimed
multiple times that he held onto hundreds of classified documents because they
were "my documents."

“We did not hear that from the president during his interview,” Hur said,
responding to Rep. Zoe Lofgren who asked if Biden believed any of the documents
turned over to investigators were, in fact, his own.

Rep. Jordan then began his line of questioning to Hur by pressing him over
whether he ever determined what President Biden’s motive was in the evidence
that he uncovered that he possessed classified documents.

“Congressman, the conclusion as to exactly why the president did what he did is
not one that we explicitly address in the report,” Hur answered. “The report
explains my decision to the attorney general that no criminal charges were
warranted in this manner.”

Chairman Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, then sought to draw a connection between Biden’s
efforts to secure money for a book deal following his vice presidency and Hur’s
findings regarding his possession of classified documents.

“Pride and money is why he knowingly violated the rules,” Jordan said. “The
oldest motives in the book, pride and money.”

Hur confirmed that his investigation found evidence “supporting those
assessments” and also confirmed details from his report that the ghostwriter
tasked by Biden with writing his book attempted to delete the audio recordings
of his conversations with Biden.

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